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[Closed] 12$ J2s bubble as SS

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arinho
Joined: 30.11.2007

No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 200/400 Blinds (4 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB (t4135)
BB (t3295)
UTG (t4190)
Hero (Button) (t1880)

Hero's M: 3.13

Preflop: Hero is Button with J, 2
1 fold, Hero bets t1880 (All-In), 1 fold, BB calls t1480

Flop: (t3960) 6, 4, Q (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: (t3960) A (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t3960) 2 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: t3960

25/25 8 hands
30/26, 76% BB fold to steal 492 hands

better to fold and wait for a better hand with BB likely to call and little fe


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Interesting to see what a judge says but this is probably the last hand with FE.


I like shoving very wide here, J2s definitely in my range, maybe 75% or so. We have fold equity this hand, and we take chips from our closest rival


viewer88
Joined: 19.04.2008

I like this shove and without checking with the ICM wizard i think its even +$EV.
BB is a regular but most regulars don't adjust properly by opening up there callrange.


zamoda
Joined: 16.03.2009

Thats a fold to me, we are in horrible shape if we are called..

We still have 1 hand before blinds, and even than its not that bad..

I'm not pushing wider than nash here

30.0%, 22+ Ax+ K7s+ KTo+ Q9s+ QTo+ J9s+ JTo T8s+ 98s

ICM Nash Calculator Results


rhezz
Joined: 01.02.2010

I agree with Zamoda - it should be a fold.

Also, according to Nash, the BB should call with 22.8%. However, I think that the BB would be calling around 30% here (making a -ev call) and making your push also -ev.


viewer88
Joined: 19.04.2008

Maybe it's ok to make a -$EV shove here.

You'll have to make a bad shove next hand or a bad call the hand after that otherwise.


Raisolution
Joined: 28.05.2009

Good push against the shortest player of your opponents. Almost ATC here.


Hlynkinn
Joined: 14.06.2008

I'm somewhere around 75-80% here... most regulars at this limit simply call us way too tight in that spot.. and J2s is doing okay against bunch of hands :P

I'm pushing tighter next hand.


Originally posted by arinho
25/25 8 hands
30/26, 76% BB fold to steal 492 hands

better to fold and wait for a better hand with BB likely to call and little fe

id just like to draw attention to the reads in the OP. Also, there was no mention of either villain being a regular.

with these reads it looks like we will get called quite wide in this spot when pushing only 4BBs, so nash is my range.

against tight unknowns shipping ultra wide is going to be great, but reads are absolutely crucial in these spots and the OP's reads should weight us towards the nash range (rather than wider, as we would prefer).