[Closed] improve EV calculation

Can you describe the process you go through to find out the EV right now?

If you can give an actual example of how you do it I can do look at it and suggest a few things that could speed up the process.

the basic process is as follows:
1. estimate oppenent's hand range (HEManager)
2. put it into Equilator along with my cards and current board
3. note opponent's chances of folding to bets/raises at a current situation (HEManager)
4. actually calculate numbers

Let's say I have 1 opponent who is in position
So first I would look at opponent's VPIP and probably my notes about this player. Doesn't take a lot of time. Finding out his range takes me to something like http://www.pokerhandrange.com/ and consumes some time. Filling in Equilator takes even more. And finally calculation itself may take an eternity and will look something like
EV(bet)=pot size*chance him folding + possible outcomes of him calling*chance him calling
while these outcomes also need calculations..

I'm probably doing something wrong as this process is not applicable to a live game

Originally posted by eqlipt
the basic process is as follows:
1. estimate oppenent's hand range (HEManager)
2. put it into Equilator along with my cards and current board
3. note opponent's chances of folding to bets/raises at a current situation (HEManager)
4. actually calculate numbers

Let's say I have 1 opponent who is in position
So first I would look at opponent's VPIP and probably my notes about this player. Doesn't take a lot of time. Finding out his range takes me to something like http://www.pokerhandrange.com/ and consumes some time. Filling in Equilator takes even more. And finally calculation itself may take an eternity and will look something like
EV(bet)=pot size*chance him folding + possible outcomes of him calling*chance him calling
while these outcomes also need calculations..

I'm probably doing something wrong as this process is not applicable to a live game

During a live game is somewhat hard to calculate your EV but what you can do is estimate.

What I mean by that is that you can do calculations when you are not at the table and as you do more and more you'll see patterns or get a fair idea for what a hand/play might be worth in a spot. So then when you play a hand you get to estimate more accurately where you stand.

The reason these calculations take so long is because for each action there is usually a reaction and a tree like scenario emerges.

The fastest way to do them would be using a program like StoxEV.