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[Closed] NL100 JJ what line to take?

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Hajler
Joined: 21.10.2008

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $1(BB) Replayer
SB ($51.70)
BB ($109)
UTG ($109)
UTG+1 ($102)
UTG+2 ($37.85)
Hero ($100)
CO ($116)
BTN ($193)

Dealt to Hero J♠ J♣

fold, fold, UTG+2 raises to $4, Hero calls $4, fold, fold, fold, fold

FLOP ($9.50) 3♦ Q♣ T♦

UTG+2 bets $5, Hero calls $5

TURN ($19.50) 3♦ Q♣ T♦ 9♠

UTG+2 checks, Hero bets $13.90, UTG+2 calls $13.90

RIVER ($47.30) 3♦ Q♣ T♦ 9♠ 4♦

UTG+2 bets $14.95 (AI), Hero calls $14.95

Villain is 27/21/15WTS/3.8AF over 66 hands.

Hello,

Is betting on the turn bad because we have showdown value? Or is it alright to get money out of draws? What line do you take here?

Thanks!


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i take the same one as u usually.


Hi,

against such a weird stack, I'd bet villain all-in on turn, making it 29,99$.
Because as you saw: You aren't really folding on river no matter what card comes => Maximize FE!
If he calls with FDs on turn: Fine.
If he folds his FDs on turn: Fine.
If he folds a Q, (which I doubt): Major win.
If he calls Qx: Fine with our 8-10 outs.
If he folds AT: Fine.
If he calls AT: Even finer.
Our equity on turn + his check + FE = +ev spot for you

What did he have?

Best regards,
Anin


lol against that guy 3b pf and get the money in


Bierbaer
Joined: 27.05.2005

Originally posted by 3betForFood
lol against that guy 3b pf and get the money in

This depends, if there's a fish behind us that we want to keep in the pot the call can be finem otherwise I'd usually also just 3bet.

As played I agree with Anin that shoving the turn is probably the best play since we're commited on any river anyway.


Originally posted by Bierbaer

Originally posted by 3betForFood
lol against that guy 3b pf and get the money in

This depends, if there's a fish behind us that we want to keep in the pot the call can be finem otherwise I'd usually also just 3bet..

59% you see at least one over card and you will be oop. It's better if there is a fish in the blinds but even then without initiative and the aggressor's small stack i don't see much u can do other peal one and fold to any T barrel.


You guys have to remember that this is FR. calling JJ pre vs a UTG (even this UTG) is usually standard.


Bierbaer
Joined: 27.05.2005

Originally posted by 3betForFood

Originally posted by Bierbaer

Originally posted by 3betForFood
lol against that guy 3b pf and get the money in

This depends, if there's a fish behind us that we want to keep in the pot the call can be finem otherwise I'd usually also just 3bet..

59% you see at least one over card and you will be oop. It's better if there is a fish in the blinds but even then without initiative and the aggressor's small stack i don't see much u can do other peal one and fold to any T barrel.

Originally posted by i5bet72o
You guys have to remember that this is FR. calling JJ pre vs a UTG (even this UTG) is usually standard.

This is one more reason to just call.
The point is, by reraising preflop we make the hand easier to play, but it's likely not the maxEV play because 3betting isolates us vs a strong range and his range isn't to weak to begin with.

If we're that afraid once an overcard hits, his range mostly consists of AK/AQ anyway - of course we can make AQ fold its equityshare by 3betting, but that's not really that great of a result when there are 4.5BB in the pot.

P.S.: I apologize for the inconvenience caused by long delays of my answerts over the holidays.
There was a lot of rl-stuff going on with family and friends (and no, I didn't just grind all the time,
in fact I played a total of 102 hands over the last 14 days ).

As of today my schedule (hopefully) is back to normal.

Best regards,
Phil