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1) Afer his turn donk i think im beat here and go into calldown mode. The river probaly saves me but i dont like villain 3betting here. Could i have capped?

Full Tilt 0.50/1 Hold'em (9 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J, J.
6 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) T, 9, T (2 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, BB calls.

Turn: (4.25 BB) Q (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.

River: (6.25 BB) K (2 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13.25 BB

2) Cant lay this hand down anymore after he checked behind on the flop. Villain played this one very strange.

Full Tilt 1/2 Hold'em (9 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9, 9.
1 fold, UTG+1 raises, 6 folds, Hero 3-bets, UTG+1 caps, Hero calls.

Flop: (11.50 SB) J, 2, 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks.

Turn: (5.75 BB) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets, UTG+1 raises, Hero calls.

River: (9.75 BB) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 11.75 BB


5 replies

1) I like call flop, raise turn more. A rivercap would be overplayed. You either split or you are beat against a better straight or fullhouse.

2) Nh.


With paired boards i like to raise the flop and calldown to a 3bet because he could have trips. I save more money then when i would have called down to a turn 3bet?

Could i have called down to a turn 3bet with a paired board? And do u think its wrong for me to raise these kinda hands on paired boards instead off call flop/raise turn ?


I thought about this a bit because first I was for a flopraise as well and it is no big mistake (if any at all).

There are two reason why I was for a call here (in a different situation it might be different of course ):

a) I saw a video of a very good german FL player and he said that he stopped raising the flop to get light calldowns. I don't know exactly why but I gues it has something to do with value, protection and balance. (Balance as the most important point.)

b) Would he really donk trips here or is it more likely that he donks a 9 because he fears a 3-bet if he check/raises or a draw (As many bad players donk their draws.).
If he is on a draw you can wait for a good turn to raise. Here you gain the most if a good card comes and you just call down if a bad one comes and you lose the less.
If he has a 9 he will most likely just call you down but again here you gain more with a turnraise.
Against this is that if he really has the T the you often get a 3-bet on the turn and you lose 1,5BB more. But would you really just calldown if he 3-bets the flop? I would often raise the turn again and then we lose even more.

As mentioned in the beginning I don't see it as a big fault to raise immediatly but I tried to explain you why I like the call flop, raise line here more. :)


Sounds logical. Thank you for explaining this to me ciRith =) makes some things clearer.


You are welcome. :)