[Closed] 100 rush river decision vs fish

I call on the river especially considering u r getting decent odds and TPTK is good often enough.

I don`t think he is ever donking two streets in general with worse than two pair. If I am not sure he is capable of turning his missed draws into bluffs often enough than again I am just guessing most of the time, which doesn`t work longrun. Even though I get 3:1 on river call I fold here.

For the judge; If we know he is donking small turn with his draws can we raise his bet for free sd maybe?

not enough stats to say imo.

- in my HUD I have AF FLOP/AF TURN / AF RIVER, and FOLD to Cbet flop
- I also always pop up % of W$SD on his turn bet and river in order to have feeling whether he plays good hands passively or donks them.
- you should also check his RAISE FLOP % to define his range etc etc
- Also WTSD stat very handy here.

In vacuum against unknown limp/caller the best play imo is to fold because limp/calling is always PP or 2 suited cards and his big bet on river looks like value bet. Well but you can' t never know because you did not check enough stats. I always base my decision on the above stats.

Probably don't have the sample size to be looking into those stats, but villian has

AF 1.7 /2.0/ 4.0
WTST 29 S$SD 40
Donk 0%
Raise cb 0%

Imo we have to make a decision on the turn. Either we call the turn and safe rivers (unless he overbetshoves or something like this) or we give him credit and fold.
I don't really like raising the turn because imo he's folding a ton of hands that he either bets or check-calls the river with (yes, I'd valuebet if he checked to me since I expect to be ahead the vast majority of the time).

@Gregor:
If we raise the turn it should be for value, not for free SD. There are no draws except gutshots in his range - raising for free SD will result in either him folding, or him calling and showing us some weird 2pair/slowplayed even stronger hand.

Btw here are some stove-results:

Against a turnrange we're not doing too well, but we have the equity to call:
Board: Kh Js 9d 7c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 73.401% 73.40% 00.00% 1744 0.00 { KJs+, QJs, J9s+, T8s+, 97s+, KJo, J9o, T8o, 97o }
Hand 1: 26.599% 26.60% 00.00% 632 0.00 { AcKs }

On the river assuming that he continues with his entire range it's extremely close, therefore I'd call - there are not many more valuehands he can have, but there's a chance he checkraises 2pair + on the flop so he might potentially have a weaker range which obv means we have more equity and therefore a +EV call:
Board: Kh Js 9d 7c 4c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 74.074% 74.07% 00.00% 40 0.00 { KJs+, QJs, J9s+, T8s+, 97s+, KJo, J9o, T8o, 97o }
Hand 1: 25.926% 25.93% 00.00% 14 0.00 { AcKs }

Originally posted by peche025
Probably don't have the sample size to be looking into those stats, but villian has

AF 1.7 /2.0/ 4.0
WTST 29 S$SD 40
Donk 0%
Raise cb 0%

yep, I overlooked you have small samplesize, sorry!