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[Closed] $1 ring: QTo call vs shove 3-handed

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mktpppr
Joined: 18.07.2010

hi,
is this shove correct? or too loose?
icm trainer says lowest call is 18.4% QJs
icm trainer says lowest FGS call is 16.1% KQo

edit: villain is fishy with weird plays during 3-handed already, totally unpredictable

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, 1.2 Tournament, 200/400 Blinds (3 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB (t2520)
Hero (BB) (t7710)
Button (t3270)

Hero's M: 12.85

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q, 10
Button bets t3270 (All-In), 1 fold, Hero calls t2870

Flop: (t6740) J, 7, A (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: (t6740) 9 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t6740) 8 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: t6740


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My default assumption is that players will not push as widely as the Nash pushing ranges with a few specific exceptions. So, I would lean towards folding even the bottom of the Nash calling range, and I think QTo is too loose against an unknown player. I would call with QTo against a small blind push there, or with the second stack moved to the small blind. I think the button's pushing range is too strong unless you have a read that he is pushing hands like Q8o and 87o.


Hlynkinn
Joined: 14.06.2008

Originally posted by pzhon
My default assumption is that players will not push as widely as the Nash pushing ranges with a few specific exceptions. So, I would lean towards folding even the bottom of the Nash calling range, and I think QTo is too loose against an unknown player. I would call with QTo against a small blind push there, or with the second stack moved to the small blind. I think the button's pushing range is too strong unless you have a read that he is pushing hands like Q8o and 87o.

+1 =)

btw for my information what is "FGS call"?


chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

future game. as in taking into account the fact that the blinds will hit us, and other things like that.