[Closed] $24 99 t30 utg

Definately bet river. 350 should be good. He is never folding any pair there. He may have TT, JJ in his range, but that's not even 100% likely.

3 streets of value for me.

BB would c/r all higher pairs imo

Originally posted by lessthanthreee
3 streets of value for me.

BB would c/r all higher pairs imo

Why? I don't see him c/r TT and JJ

people never c/c TT/JJ on this board....

he would either bet/call or c/r imo.

flop. i put him on a million draws + worse pairs.
turn. same (therefore bet for value)
river. easy bet (even if he check/calls turn) same reasoning as turn

So are you snapping if he c/r turn? Oh and I agree we have best hand here, I just don't know if we can get 3-streets of value. You think he will turn with worse pockets (22, 44, 55)?

Originally posted by lessthanthreee
people never c/c TT/JJ on this board....

he would either bet/call or c/r imo.

flop. i put him on a million draws + worse pairs.
turn. same (therefore bet for value)
river. easy bet (even if he check/calls turn) same reasoning as turn

He's 8/6, why would he have a million draws? What does he accomplish by c/r JJ and TT? A value town against better overpairs?

Agreed on river. But I think I don't get 3 streets from worse here too often.

Originally posted by LgWz

Originally posted by lessthanthreee
people never c/c TT/JJ on this board....

he would either bet/call or c/r imo.

flop. i put him on a million draws + worse pairs.
turn. same (therefore bet for value)
river. easy bet (even if he check/calls turn) same reasoning as turn

He's 8/6, why would he have a million draws? What does he accomplish by c/r JJ and TT? A value town against better overpairs?

Agreed on river. But I think I don't get 3 streets from worse here too often.

We're not judging whether villains play with TT/JJ is good. because obviously he should snap fold those hands against your UTG range. but fish are bad.

if he check/raises turn i give him 6x, but also a lot of combos with spades. if he check/call flop check/raise turn thats PRETTY STRONG. so i would have to tank real hard and decide whether hes got 6x/set or just a strong draw. Id probably still ship it in and i would still be very surprised if he turned up with an overpair. why would he check/call an over-pair on the flop, but c/r on the turn? that makes even less sense.

8/6 is pretty tight, if he has a very low AF he might be capable of c/c with TT/JJ but most will be TAG. and just c/r with them.

@anssi. - if he calls flop with 22/44/55 hes calling turn too. the 6 makes his pair look better.

ive played many pots with overpairs in my time, and this line by villain is never TT+ imo. hes always got a medium made hand that he wants to try get to SD cheap, or a draw. unless he is VERY passive (unlikely imo)

if villain was a reg then this hand changes completely. but against fish im going for 3 streets.

Sorry. i forgot to answer why someone playing 8/6 would have a million draws. hes in the BB hes getting 3:1 pre with good implied, its very plausible that he would flat here with a lot of connectors/small pairs etc.

No Limit Holdem Tournament
FullTiltPoker
9 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
$22 + $2 Sit & Go (Turbo)

Stacks:
Hero (1,500)
UTG+1 (1,500)
MP1 (1,500)
MP2 (1,935)
MP3 (1,485)
CO (1,155)
BTN (1,455)
SB (1,470)
BB (1,500)

Blinds: 15/30

Pre-Flop: (45, 9 players) Hero is UTG 9♠ 9♥
Hero raises to 90, UTG+1 calls 90, 6 folds, BB calls 60

Flop: 3♠ 6♣ 7♣ (285, 3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets 150, UTG+1 folds, BB calls 150

Turn: 6♠ (585, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: 6♥ (585, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Final Pot: 585
BB shows a full house, Sixes full of Jacks
J♦ J♠
Hero shows
9♠ 9♥

BB wins 585 (net +345)

Hero lost 240
UTG+1 lost 90