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Gerv
Joined: 07.05.2008

$0.50/$1 No Limit Holdem
6 Players
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18/17, 66 hands - basic player

No 3bet/4bet Dynamics established with him

My image (if relevant) 28/26 player who is isolating 2 fish , 8% 3bet

Stacks:
UTG ($131)
UTG+1 ($262)
CO ($109)
BTN ($105)
SB ($100)
Gerv ($105)

Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Gerv is BB 2♦ A♠
3 folds, BTN raises to $2.50, 1 fold, Gerv raises to $9, BTN calls $6.50

Flop: Q♦ 7♣ 2♠ ($18.50, 2 players)
Gerv bets $11, BTN calls $11

Turn: 7♦ ($40.50, 2 players)
Gerv bets $22

Risking $22 to win $41 with 10% equity, I need him to fold 30% of his Floprange. If I have around 20%, I need 25% FEQ

The 7:d doesn't change much but decreases his sets to 2 combo's which is OK :P

I think my sizing on the Turn is critical if I want to fold out AJ,TT-99 (20ish combo's) from 72 combo's ( I assign JJ-88, AQs-AJs, KQs, AQo-AJo, KQo )

Another question would be: if he calls again on my $22 bet, is a $63 rivershove viable on:
5:h?
J:s?
A:c ?

For the 5:h, I think he cannot fold Qx when he calls again + folding decent amount on my 2nd barrel that this is basic spew

On the J:s I think the same + it strengthens his range abit if he is suspicious ont he Turn

the A:c gives me 2 pair but AQ as well so it is quite a tricky spot. I think KQ would check back as well as other pairs
Thoughts?


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Bierbaer
Joined: 27.05.2005

Hey Gerv!

How have you been, haven't heard from you in a long time.
I see you even started playing real poker now .
(I guess you have a read on me and expected I'd say that?)

As for the hand:
I don't really like the 3bet preflop.
You have a somewhat loose image, so the opponents will start playing back at some point. This means you can 3bet stuff like AT and perhaps even A9s and A8s for value, but A2o is clearly dominated and will lose you a lot of money postflop (most opponents will not just fold all the time on the flop when they're IP).

As played I'd b/f flop and c/f turn.
The reason is, that the bet is veeery thin. So we need him to always call all combinations of AJ on the flop as well as call 88-JJ and always fold on the turn.
You can of course argue that he might raise strong hands like AQ on the flop sometimes, but it's still very close and again: our image is somewhat loose, maybe he even tries to move.
If he calls again on the turn I'd definitely c/f any non-A river. I don't expect to have much foldequity there, if any.

On an A river I'd shove it in for value - if you check it's a c/f.


Tim64
Joined: 03.11.2008

Pre is w/e. 3b with the blocker but we could maybe 3b a range that is easier to play.

Think I shut down after flop is called. This guy looks std so I would give tightish range for calling 3b.

Bd is pretty safe for all the pairs, with no Ace, so I give up on turn since he shouldnt fold anything on this turn card (and hope he checks behind and we catch up), esp since when he calls we are always beat whereas when he ch/b T we are sometimes even ahead.

As played, I would shove an Ace on the river for value and ch/f Js or 5h (neither should really help our hand much


Gerv
Joined: 07.05.2008

I think 3betting lineair is better with my image, totally forgot about that when I returned from hibernating

What do you think of c/shove Turn, a player with my image should either go for 3barrel bluff or give up on a certain street (mostly Turn) so I can go relentless there.

I risk $80 to win $60ish hence 57% FEQ with 0% PEQ. But since I most likely have around 10-15% EQ, I need 45% FEQ (not pinpoint calculation so correct me if I am wrong)

In terms of his range, yes it includes Qx but also a lot of floats in my opinion as I am a habitual barreler

It's just a food for thought/discussion but I think it is viable at some point


Bierbaer
Joined: 27.05.2005

If you're a habitual barreler and he adapts to it correctly, it means he is not floating with air. He will have more medium strength hands, but he doesn't plan on folding them.

I don't like the c/shove on the turn either, with an aggro image you can go for thin value - the only way you can not take advantage of your aggro image is by running even bigger bluffs.

I agree that once you start betting you should probably go for 3 streets, if the opponents adjust correctly and call down light with valuehands and fold on the flop otherwise it's even good to either bet 1 street or 3, but I think most people on NL100 will not adapt correctly and still sometimes float you, therefore I'd go for either 3 streets or 0.