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Luupainaja
Joined: 16.03.2010

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, 24 Tournament, 60/120 Blinds (4 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (Button) (t1910)
SB (t6570)
BB (t1465)
UTG (t3555)

Hero's M: 10.61

Preflop: Hero is Button with 8, 8
UTG calls t120, Hero???

Limper is a unpredictable fish. SOmetimes he limp/folded, sometimes called w T4s. Was quite aggro on the flop. Easy shove still? Can i make any other plays?


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gross spot..

i still like a shove here because hes a 3.5k stack and you have quite a bit of FE on him. if he was the 6k stack i think id fold (but its still close imo purely because of hand strength).

you cant really raise small or limp behind because of the stack dynamics. tbh limping behind isnt horrible if the SB is passive, looking to stack off against UTG/BB on good boards and being a bit more risk-averse. But im fine with just shipping 15BBs against the mid-stack. fold 77 though


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maniac
Joined: 29.03.2006

huhu,

hero said that the fish is laggy, so probalby don´t have fe here. its a clear fold for 15bb with one shorty and a aggro bigstack who wants to trap you. sry

greez


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Originally posted by maniac
huhu,

hero said that the fish is laggy, so probalby don´t have fe here. its a clear fold for 15bb with one shorty and a aggro bigstack who wants to trap you. sry

greez

Villain was aggro in flop not preflop so no need to be afraid of traps really. Villain might limp strons ones, but huge amount of trash as well. Plus there is no real short stack... "Shorty" still has 12bb. I don't personally mind to shove here, but obviously it's not great spot.


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Originally posted by maniac
huhu,

hero said that the fish is laggy, so probalby don´t have fe here. its a clear fold for 15bb with one shorty and a aggro bigstack who wants to trap you. sry

greez

villain is a mid-stack on the bubble we have a 2k stack against his 3k. we have a LOT of FE against a limping fish. his limp range includes a lot of SCs, small pairs,weak Ax,broadways and hes never limp/calling those for 2k chips.

in general limps are weak. this is a great spot to exploit fishy players in a STT and shove pre-flop. the only thing that complicates it is the # of BBs we are risking. but i still shove and IMO its clearly +EV because yes we have FE.


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maniac
Joined: 29.03.2006

ah ok understood you mean loose pre mean not that he will call us loose of at the bubble. ok but we´re clear that with no fe we have to fold right? because i think that we have to read the spot if he is to spewy and call of evertime its pretty bad to shove.
can we shove for value here if he is loose enough? or do you actually do this?
neverthless afte this discussion i would shove pre to because if here readed a limp fold than we got fe and that means your right lessthanthree thanks


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yeah if u think he will limp call u with JTo and other trash then yes its a clear fold. we can only shove with JJ+ .


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