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[Closed] KK on the sattelite bubble - $26BI, $260 payout

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bradomurder
Joined: 17.10.2008
Oldschool Grinder

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $300(BB) Replayer
SB ($7,508)
BB ($516)
UTG ($3,240)
UTG+1 ($2,764)
UTG+2 ($1,980)
MP1 ($1,516)
Hero ($605)
BTN ($4,671)

25 Antes, 150-300 blinds, note BBs stack

Dealt to Hero K♠ K♦

fold, UTG+1 raises to $600, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold

8 left, Top 7 Pay equal, 8th gets nothing. the tables playing tight

Push or fold?


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amplifyd
Joined: 03.08.2009
PokerStrategist

Fold given BB's stack size - I think.

You not got sngwiz? I don't have it installed - but thats gna tell u what to do.


bradomurder Topic starter
bradomurder
Joined: 17.10.2008
Oldschool Grinder

na I don't but I should get it I'd probably make my money back on it pretty quick.


snapfold


is there ante's in this & when is blinds going up

last time done something similar with Ks call all-in against AK & A hits obv , still think would call ,


stealyourblinds
Joined: 20.01.2010
Oldschool Grinder

IMHO snap push, you only can survive more 1 round, if you dont put it in with the KK, you wont likely find any better spot to push it and blind out anyway.


bradomurder Topic starter
bradomurder
Joined: 17.10.2008
Oldschool Grinder

stealyourblinds and curnow I don't know if you guys read the whole hand properly

@Amplifyd: Have got sngwiz now but I battled to get anything but an error message. Will have another go anothertime


stealyourblinds
Joined: 20.01.2010
Oldschool Grinder

Sorry about this beginer question, but, BB has 516 left after already having posted the BB and ante, or he has still to post it?

If he has already posted the BB, you will blind out before he does, so in this case I would push with the KK.

If he still has to put the BB and ante from the 516, he will be left with 191 behind, and will blind out before you, in that case I would fold the KK.


Originally posted by stealyourblinds
If he still has to put the BB and ante from the 516, he will be left with 191 behind, and will blind out before you, in that case I would fold the KK.

This


bradomurder Topic starter
bradomurder
Joined: 17.10.2008
Oldschool Grinder

yeah he hadn't posted yet so I folded I was trying to do a quick calc at the time on % of winning if I folded vs if I called like ~65% if called and I guessed higher if I folded. I still think it's close but a fold is probably right.

Long story short this is the hand I busted on: Don't think there was much else I could do.

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $300(BB) Replayer
SB ($1,580)
BB ($1,416)
Hero ($505)
UTG+1 ($4,571)
UTG+2 ($8,558)
MP1 ($482)
CO ($2,824)
BTN ($2,864)

Dealt to Hero 2♦ 2♣

Hero raises to $480 (AI), fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB calls $180

FLOP ($1,310) K♥ Q♦ K♦

TURN ($1,310) K♥ Q♦ K♦ T♥

RIVER ($1,310) K♥ Q♦ K♦ T♥ Q♥

BB shows A♠ 8♦
(Pre 48%, Flop 43.4%, Turn 36.4%)

Hero shows 2♦ 2♣
(Pre 52%, Flop 56.6%, Turn 63.6%)

BB wins $1,310


amplifyd
Joined: 03.08.2009
PokerStrategist

Originally posted by goldchess

Originally posted by stealyourblinds
If he still has to put the BB and ante from the 516, he will be left with 191 behind, and will blind out before you, in that case I would fold the KK.

This

+1


its close (icm would tell you fold imo) but I probably wont fold

if you decide to fold in that spot with KK you shouldnt push any hand later on, just blind off, def not pushing 22 there (i'm pushing something like 66+,AT+, 98+)


bradomurder Topic starter
bradomurder
Joined: 17.10.2008
Oldschool Grinder

KK hand:

I was assuming BB would call with ATC but maybe he's folding trash. If I give UTG 5% range (and he hasn't done anything yet at the final table so I think he's tight) then BB will have about 28% equity so 72% of the time I definitely cash, 28% I still have a reasonable chance.

If I call I will have 70% equity but will not necessarily cash if I win so I think a clear fold.

As for the 22 hand: I thought it was a push because I was blinded out in 2 hands but I guess there is still a chance the other shortstack will bust.

Actually dunno though, whoever judges this could you have a look at the 22 hand too please.


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