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[Closed] nl100 Rush TT ip, set on mono bd

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Tim64
Joined: 03.11.2008

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $1(BB) Replayer
SB ($87.10)
BB ($342)
UTG ($121)
UTG+1 ($25)
CO ($261)
Hero ($103)

Dealt to Hero T♦ T♥

UTG raises to $3.50, fold, fold, Hero calls $3.50, fold, fold

FLOP ($8.50) T♣ 6♣ 2♣

UTG bets $6, Hero calls $6

TURN ($20.50) T♣ 6♣ 2♣ Q♦

UTG bets $16, Hero calls $16

RIVER ($52.50) T♣ 6♣ 2♣ Q♦ 7♦

UTG bets $38, Hero calls $38

villain unk.
Any other line we can take?


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ttjjboy
Joined: 31.05.2009

a lot of lines can be taken lol

u played like this as got some reads?

I think it's pretty std to rasie flop with top set
protect it from A:c K:c in his range and get value from JJ+
it really dlifficult for him to fold over pairs on such a draw heavy board


I think raise/broke is the best line to take here.

Pessimistic range:

MP2 30.56% 29.70% 0.85% 66, 22, AdAc, AhAc, AsAc, AcKd, AcKh, AcKs, AcKc, AcQc, KcQc, AcJc, AcTc
MP3 69.44% 68.59% 0.85% TdTh

If you only call, you lose a lot of money.


Tim64
Joined: 03.11.2008

u played like this as got some reads?

Not when villain is unkown, as i sad ;)

Why is it the case that the best line is to get the $ in on the flop? Especially vs unknown when we cant say much about his broke range - i.e. cant say for sure if he goes broke with Acx or AA etc. If villain had checked this flop we would have bet - probably about the amount he bet, so when he bets we still get protection/value and we allow him to bluff.

If you only call, you lose a lot of money.

This is definitely the case vs the range that villain is willing to go broke with on the flop (assuming that range is one we are ahead of). But it doesnt follow that its always the case vs his entire range. I may be wrong about this but it feels like raising here negates our positional advantage significantly.


Bierbaer
Joined: 27.05.2005

Let's assume he raises this range UTG: {66+, AJs+, KJs+, AJo+}, which is 8.3%.

On the flop he will fold 77, 88, 99 to a raise and probably get it in with AA and KK.
I'm not sure about JJ and QQ, but imo if they include a club he will at least call a raise.
Also AJo+ with the Ac don't fold to the raise.
So the range he continues with, either by 3betting or calling vs a raise, looks like this:
{KK+,TT,66,AcKd,AcKh,AcKs,AcQd,AcQh,AcQs,AcJd,AcJh,AcJs,AcKc,AcQc,KcQc,QdQc,QhQc,QsQc,AcJc,KcJc,JdJc,JhJc,JsJc}.
Against this range we have:

Board: T♣6♣2♣
       Equity     Win     Tie
MP2    30.58%  30.00%   0.58% { KK+, TT, 66, AcKd, AcKh, AcKs, AcQd, AcQh, AcQs, AcJd, AcJh, AcJs, AcKc, AcQc, KcQc, QdQc, QhQc, QsQc, AcJc, KcJc, JdJc, JhJc, JsJc }
MP3    69.42%  68.83%   0.58% { TdTh }

almost 70% equity.
One more thing to consider is, that he's not too likely to 2ndbarrel with air because he is probably scared of not having much foldequity because he thinks we have a lot of Acx hands in our range that we're not just giving up.

So on non-club turns we can get a 2ndbarrel from JJ and QQ, but otherwise I don't see much we can gain by calling the flop.

Therefore I prefer to just raise for value right away.

As played there's not much we can do but call down for induce.


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