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[Closed] nl25 ak gutshot heads up

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snowylee
Joined: 27.01.2007

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

saw flop|saw showdown

UTG ($14.35)
UTG+1 ($21.20)
MP1 ($4.30)
MP2 ($33.35)
Hero ($4.65)
Button ($4.95)
SB ($22.45)
BB ($31.30)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K, A.
4 folds, Hero raises to $1, 1 fold, SB calls $0.90, 1 fold.

Flop: ($2.25) T, J, 4 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.45, SB raises to $4, Hero calls $2.20 (All-In).

Turn: ($9.55) 9 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($9.55) A (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $9.55

I guess this is an easy call with quite ok potodds? Or should I have taken a freecard instead?


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Yoghi
Joined: 10.09.2007

Good call, you've got 4 outs for gutshot and an additional discounted 4 outs for your overcards I think.


snowylee
Joined: 27.01.2007

Yeah I thought so too, at least 2 good outs for my overcards plus the gutshot


Yoghi
Joined: 10.09.2007

I don't think you need to discount your 6 overcards to only 2 outs, 4 or maybe 3 seems better.


snowylee
Joined: 27.01.2007

Ah yeah, I meant 3, typo :)


xylere
Joined: 28.05.2007

forget about freecards)))

when you have AK as overcards + gutshot you almost always want to play your hand till the end... by pushing directly ot cbet/calling. After a cbet you will be deadly commited) therefore, when your stack:pot ratio is 1.5- even 1.7 : 1 or less - push to generate maximum fold equity, otherwise cbet/call)


snowylee
Joined: 27.01.2007

Yeah ok. But what should I do on the turn if Im just called? c/c c/f or just get it all in?


xylere
Joined: 28.05.2007

Push of course. Lets examine simple situation:

you have full 20BB stack and get AK

pre-flop: raise 4BB - opp. calls

flop: stack 16BB, pot 8BB (blinds are raked)
you bet 6BB - opp. calls

turn: stack 10BB, pot 20BB

you are getting 3:1 - obviously you have no choice, but push) besides, calling is likely a sign of weakness there, since they will often fold or reraise with top pair and even with lower pocket pair...

Anyway, you will have more the needed 25% equity most of the time, however, it just won`t happen too often, since you don`t offer any immplied odds to your opponents for calling against you. therefore, if someone is calling your bets a lot on postflop betting rounds - he is likely a moron)


snowylee
Joined: 27.01.2007

Yeah ok, thanks :). And yeah, indeed they are :O, calling for setvalue too lol.. Quite a couple of people do that though :P.. Not that Im complaining haha, gives us more of the monies xD