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The villan has been raising alot
i put him on a weaker made hand or draw on the turn, thats why i shoved with less than a pot sized bet left
was it an ok play by me?

PokerStars Game #61683468039: Tournament #419010573, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (150/300) - 2011/05/04 23:12:48 CET [2011/05/04 17:12:48 ET]
Table '419010573 176' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: justinlodge (314 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 2: morrex (23832 in chips)
Seat 3: fix1 (1680 in chips)
Seat 4: stinsonboy (5583 in chips)
Seat 5: BINGO010281 (12350 in chips)
Seat 6: silasgraso (8837 in chips)
Seat 7: ChronicIceT (5867 in chips)
Seat 8: hero(10347 in chips)
Seat 9: xTremePokerx (12375 in chips)
justinlodge: posts the ante 25
morrex: posts the ante 25
fix1: posts the ante 25
stinsonboy: posts the ante 25
BINGO010281: posts the ante 25
silasgraso: posts the ante 25
ChronicIceT: posts the ante 25
hero: posts the ante 25
xTremePokerx: posts the ante 25
justinlodge: posts small blind 150
morrex: posts big blind 300
HOLE CARDS
Dealt to gruselog82 [Tc Ah]
fix1: folds
stinsonboy: folds
BINGO010281: raises 400 to 700
silasgraso: folds
ChronicIceT: folds
hero: raises 1000 to 1700
xTremePokerx: folds
justinlodge: folds
morrex: folds
BINGO010281: calls 1000
FLOP [2h Th 7d]
BINGO010281: checks
hero: bets 2037
BINGO010281: calls 2037
TURN [2h Th 7d] [Jd]
BINGO010281: checks
hero: bets 6585 and is all-in
BINGO010281: calls 6585
RIVER [2h Th 7d Jd] [Ks]
SHOW DOWN
BINGO010281: shows [8d 9d] (a straight, Seven to Jack)
hero: shows [Tc Ah] (a pair of Tens)
BINGO010281 collected 21319 from pot
SUMMARY
Total pot 21319 | Rake 0
Board [2h Th 7d Jd Ks]
Seat 1: justinlodge (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: morrex (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: fix1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: stinsonboy folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: BINGO010281 showed [8d 9d] and won (21319) with a straight, Seven to Jack
Seat 6: silasgraso folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: ChronicIceT folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: hero showed [Tc Ah] and lost with a pair of Tens
Seat 9: xTremePokerx (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)


6 replies

as played shove on flop


dont like 3betting preflop with AT , you have position on him but to call will price in the blinds so would fold pre

as played on flop , bet size is around 1/2 pot & 1/4 your stack , if your betting close to half your stack shove it ,

turn plays it self & just unlucky , dont post results & use good hand convertor


Originally posted by juno82
i was actually concerned about my play postflop, and as suggested i should have shoved on the flop.

But what is wrong with 3beting a player who is raising wide, he is basically raisng any two broadway cards, suited connectors, a2s+, a5+, and high connected cards like j9 and t9. at is way ahead of his range.

preflop you are asking him to call 3/1 ie 1000 to win 3075 so with anytwo he is getting great odds
as for posting results its easy to say shove flop but realy you are to deep to shove 24bb there & dont see much wrong with half pot

turn you could get away from , the J could easy hit his hand


Tiltberger
Joined: 23.06.2005

i also really don't get why he should shove the flop -> just make a half bet ps or a little less -> you want to induce a move or get value pair midpairs whatever.
I'm not really sure what I can say to the 3bet. if hes that lose i guess it can be ok, if not its not so great. first our stack is not the best -> we would have to 3bet fold (maybe not against an superaggro-fishplayer) but anyway. as you played i also like halfbetpot more than a shove on the flop. I'm just curious about the preflop play.


Originally posted by bonebt
as played shove on flop

ups i misread HH i thought villain donk into hero thats why u suggest to shove on flop

next time you post hand use hand convertor

about 3beting i think stacks are ok to 3bet (~33BB effective) and hero has position on villain if he flats and he can take it post flop with Cbet most often