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lechrumski
Joined: 21.12.2008

Hi,

Basically I would like to discuss concept of raising the turn here. Can we raise here for protection? Most of the time we should have the best hand as his bet sizing doesnt show lots of strength. Also he can be stealing pot with 20-30% equity like FD + GS. If my opponent is on a draw I want to make him pay for that. Also it buys me free river. Even if he has a straight I still have 6 outs and FH is rather unlikely. Is raising the turn ok here?

On the river I bet 6.50 and he called.

$0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
Prima
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
UTG is unknown, saw him limp/calling so seems rather passive

Stacks:
UTG Player5 ($55.73)
UTG+1 Player6 ($47.70)
CO lechrumski ($76.34)
BTN Player2 ($18.25)
SB Player3 ($112.80)
BB Player4 ($22.04)

Pre-Flop: ($0.75, 6 players) lechrumski is CO A♦ A♠ J♥ 7♥
Player5 calls $0.50, 1 fold, lechrumski raises to $2.25, 3 folds, Player5 calls $1.75

Flop: 8♦ 8♣ 5♠ ($5.25, 2 players)
Player5 checks, lechrumski checks

Turn: 9♣ ($5.25, 2 players)
Player5 bets $2.50, lechrumski calls $2.50

River: 10:diamond: ($10.25, 2 players)
Player5 checks, lechrumski ($71.59)?


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Ribbo
Joined: 25.06.2010

You've backdoored a straight and I honestly expect it to be good here. I would bet around half pot and expect to get looked up by an 8 that isn't full or 76xx.

I don't see how a hand better than yours checks to you other than someone bluffing the turn with QJTx.

As for the turn, you can't really raise it, you're just going to isolate yourself against better hands here. Well, you can raise it, but you certainly can't against anyone showing a good level of aggression. If you are playing against a passive player then you can raise to $7.50 knowing he wont play back at you lightly (but then why is he betting the turn?).

My main issue is I can't imagine any hand I have where I 3 bet preflop, check behind on the flop and raise this turn card that isn't 99xx. I think for balance you should be betting this flop OR calling his turn bet. Checking behind the flop and raising the turn is unbalanced and I don't see you doing it at all pretty much with hands you 3 bet preflop.

I much prefer a turn float call, which is what I would also do with hands like KK or QJTx on the turn here.


lechrumski
Joined: 21.12.2008

You wrote "in 3bet pot" This was single raised pot as this guy limped and I raised him. Does it change anything?


Ribbo
Joined: 25.06.2010

It makes me more likely to bet the river since i'm never getting bluff raised here. Looks an easy value bet though we could be value betting ourselves to an underfull