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[Closed] Fold vs 5b shove?

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salflip
Joined: 02.10.2007

Villain is 41/13/ 2 af /0 cb/ 0 3b/ 27wtsd over 60 hands

ok to stack off?

I think for this call to be +EV villain needs to have AQ in his range to make this a profitable call.

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $2(BB) Replayer
SB ($305)
BB ($173)
Hero ($454)
UTG+1 ($324)
CO ($200)
BTN ($184)

Dealt to Hero A♠ K♥

Hero raises to $6, fold, fold, BTN calls $6, SB raises to $14, fold, Hero raises to $43, fold, SB raises to $304, Hero calls $261

FLOP ($617) T♣ 2♣ 7♦

TURN ($617) T♣ 2♣ 7♦ 9♣

RIVER ($617) T♣ 2♣ 7♦ 9♣ 5♣


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He didn't 3b in 60 hands and you stack off with AK? He probably doesn't even 3b QQ against which you're flipping!


y dont u just flat his 3bet pre if u dont want to get it in?


peche025
Joined: 14.12.2008

I'm not stacking this off pre, his almost min squeeze + re ship screams monster to me without further information. I don't mind flatting the squeeze ip, his squeeze could just mean I have 2 cards and hit the raise button either way you keep his range as wide as possible.


I'm not a professional, but I think stacking off pf with AK here 150BB deep is major spew?!

The only thing the stats can tell on this sample is, that he is probably rather calling than reraising preflop, and to me thats definitely a reason not to stack off.
Of course folding to his 3b is pretty weak and calling also sucks in that sandwich position, but maybe 4b/f is an option here.
I would not even consider this turning your hand into a bluff. He may even call a small 4b pf with worse like AQ but shove anything that has you crushed. At least the tendencies you can take from the stats tell you, that he doesn't like folding pf too much but wants to have a real hand to be aggressive.


Bierbaer
Joined: 27.05.2005

Originally posted by HergenL
I'm not a professional, but I think stacking off pf with AK here 150BB deep is major spew?!

The only thing the stats can tell on this sample is, that he is probably rather calling than reraising preflop, and to me thats definitely a reason not to stack off.
Of course folding to his 3b is pretty weak and calling also sucks in that sandwich position, but maybe 4b/f is an option here.
I would not even consider this turning your hand into a bluff. He may even call a small 4b pf with worse like AQ but shove anything that has you crushed. At least the tendencies you can take from the stats tell you, that he doesn't like folding pf too much but wants to have a real hand to be aggressive.

I very much agree with this.

Against a guy calling the squeeze is my preferred option as well, but since you're a little bit deep with him a 4bet for value is worth a consideration, too.

However, once he shoves over the 4bet (especially that deep) I think his range is KK+, perhaps even AA only - I'm definitely folding.