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[Closed] Top set might be a little behind sometimes

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Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $0.06(BB) Replayer
SB ($7.56)
BB ($19.18)
UTG ($2.43)
Hero ($6)
UTG+2 ($5.94)
MP1 ($15.01)
CO ($3.18)
BTN ($8.72)

Dealt to Hero 4♠ 7♥ K♠ K♥

fold, Hero raises to $0.21, fold, fold, CO calls $0.21, BTN calls $0.21, SB calls $0.18, BB calls $0.15

FLOP ($1.05) 5♦ K♣ J♦

SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $1, CO raises to $2, BTN folds, SB folds, BB folds, Hero raises to $5.79 (AI), CO calls $0.97 (AI)

TURN ($6.99) 5♦ K♣ J♦ 8♦

RIVER ($6.99) 5♦ K♣ J♦ 8♦ J♠

CO shows A♥ Q♦ T♦ 2♥
(Pre 47%, Flop 52.9%, Turn 75.0%)

Hero shows 4♠ 7♥ K♠ K♥
(Pre 53%, Flop 47.1%, Turn 25.0%)

Hero wins $6.65

Posted this for the stats, it's funny how no pair wrap+FD can be slightly better than top set. Never seen this before, so might be a first time for other members as well.


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Fush
Joined: 18.06.2008

Its quite common when in a heavy drawy board you get your money in with top set you are flipping. Like TT** vs QsJs8d7d on board like Ts9s2d the set is losing 60-40.


Ribbo
Joined: 25.06.2010

The equivalent in holdem would see top set being 57/43 favourite. However drawing hands can be favourite in holdem as well quite significantly sometimes.... :f_biggrin:

board: T :diamond: 9 :diamond: 5 :spade:
Hand Equity Wins Ties
Q :diamond: J :diamond: 71.11%
7 :spade: 7 :club: 28.89%


Rammie
Joined: 13.02.2011

I wonder what the worst equity you could have with the nuts on the flop would be?

I found:
Board Cards
7S 3S 8C
8D 8H 2H KC 39.2683
7C 6C 9S TS 60.7317

im sure theres worse combinations though, love that the nuts on the flop is the dog, isnt omaha great?


Ribbo
Joined: 25.06.2010

Originally posted by Rammie
I wonder what the worst equity you could have with the nuts on the flop would be?

I found:
Board Cards
7S 3S 8C
8D 8H 2H KC 39.2683
7C 6C 9S TS 60.7317

im sure theres worse combinations though, love that the nuts on the flop is the dog, isnt omaha great?

The worse equity you can have with the nuts (top set) in PLO on the flop is 0%. True story.

Though that is in a 10 handed game where nobody folds . :f_biggrin:


ihufa
Joined: 18.03.2008

Ribbo the 5 could be a T or 9 so he could hit 2 pair better kicker aswell imo :f_biggrin:


Coach
Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010
Spoiler

Flop: A:h 3:h 5:c
Player1: K:s9:s4:d2:d (=teh nuts!)
Player2: 7:h7:c6:h:4c
Nuts has 28,7% equity.

Who can find the lowest equity for nuts at flop, against 1 opponent?
edit: got 23,4%:
Flop: A:h 4:c 5:h
Player1: 2:s3:sK:s9:s
Player2: 5:c5:d6:h7:h


Coach
Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

5 days, no entries. Looks like I won? What do I get?