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[Closed] 5/10 Value bets III

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Pete70
Joined: 14.04.2006

1. Hand

no reads

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Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $5/$10
4 players
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Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is Button with A♠ Q♦
UTG raises, Hero 3-bets, 2 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: T♦ 5♥ 9♠ (7.5SB, 2 players)
UTG bets, Hero calls.

Turn: A♥ (4.75BB, 2 players)
UTG bets, Hero calls.

River: 6♦ (6.75BB, 2 players)
UTG bets, Hero raises, UTG calls.

Results:

2. Hand:

no reads

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Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $5/$10
4 players
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Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is UTG with 7♥ A♣
Hero raises, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: Q♠ 6♠ 7♣ (4.5SB, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.

Turn: 5♠ (3.25BB, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.

River: J♣ (5.25BB, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

Results:
Final pot: 5.25BB

3. Hand

50/13/1.7/37

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Pot Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2.50/$5
8 players
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Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is SB with Q♠:Ts
UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls, Button calls, BB checks.

Flop: A♠ T♣ A♥ ($17.5, 7 players)
SB bets $5, BB calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: 6♦ ($32.5, 7 players)
SB bets $10, BB calls, MP2 calls.

River: 4♠ ($62.5, 7 players)
SB bets $10, BB raises to $20.
Uncalled bets: $10 returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: $82.5


10 replies

1) Hmm I somehow like a turnraise more. Riverraise should be fine as well but I judge a donkbet more as draw than a made hand.

2) I valuebet against a worse 7 or 6.

3) You are BB? Nh then. Was your plan to fold to a 3-bet?


Yoghi
Joined: 10.09.2007

1) I'd raise this turn aswell, he either has a draw or some pair which he thinks this is the best way to protect (at least that's what my experiences say :) )

2) Even though I really hate the jack I'd bet this aswell, for the same reason as ciRith.

3) I have to learn that trick to disappear ^^ I think I would raise the turn though.


1) again on 0,5/1 i just raise turn, realy don't know on higher limits
2)why no b/f? if he raises you have a easy fold.
3) don't know who you are. if you ar button i would raise preflop i guess.
if you are bb i would raise flop.


Yoghi
Joined: 10.09.2007

Looking at hand 3 again I think he is "button" because he has to act first postflop, before the BB.

Raise preflop in that situation. I don't think you can fold this river, there are no draws anywhere that completed, and his stats suggest that he would raise an ace on the turn at least.


Pete70
Joined: 14.04.2006

I have corrected hand 3 now. I was in the small blind.

I know, i have to value bet more. My river aggression is only about 1.4. Hand 2 is a typical fault.


Can you give us the river aggression from BB at hand 3)? If his af is very high there then you have to call. If it's very lowthen the fold is nice.


Yoghi
Joined: 10.09.2007

I don't think I would ever fold this when AF > 0.5

I think he will raise his ace on the river, and you have the 2nd best T, BB could have anything and I don't directly put him on a better hand here.

BTW: That hand is really fucked up ^^ It says pot is $17.5 but that's only possible when the SB (you) folded.


Well a passive opponent who raises on a total blank card? What else than a slowplayed ace should he have?


Pete70
Joined: 14.04.2006

I did not look at his river af. I only see he is a bad player. Such player love it, to play their good hands slow. So i was sure, he has the ace, when he raise the river.


Well even bad players like to bluff and they don't notice that the rivercard is bad for it. I myself never look at the stats but this is a leak by myself too. ;)