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MadMaXsilesia
Joined: 28.09.2010

It's just from today:

First that:

iPoker - €0.25/€0.50 - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (BTN): €46.28
SB: €25.00
BB: €10.00
UTG: €102.11
MP: €36.90
CO: €56.16

SB posts SB €0.25, BB posts BB €0.50

Pre Flop: (€0.75) Hero has K♠ K♥

UTG raises to €1.75, MP calls €1.75, fold, Hero raises to €7.00, SB raises to €25.00, fold, UTG raises to €102.11, fold, Hero calls €39.28

Flop: (€119.81, 3 players) 2♣ 9♥ Q♠

Turn: (€119.81, 3 players) Q♣

River: (€119.81, 3 players) A♠

Hero mucks K♠ K♥ (Two Pair, Kings and Queens) (PreFlop 2%, Flop 1%, Turn 0%)
SB shows K♦ K♣ (Two Pair, Kings and Queens) (PreFlop 2%, Flop 1%, Turn 0%)
UTG shows A♦ A♥ (Full House, Aces full of Queens) (PreFlop 97%, Flop 98%, Turn 100%)
UTG wins €116.8

And a while ago this:

iPoker - €0.25/€0.50 - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

UTG: €52.57
Hero (MP): €50.00
CO: €23.93
BTN: €55.89
SB: €15.00
BB: €11.37

SB posts SB €0.25, BB posts BB €0.50, CO posts DB €0.75

Pre Flop: (€1.50) Hero has A♠ A♣

fold, Hero raises to €2.00, CO calls €1.50, fold, SB raises to €15.00, fold, Hero raises to €28.00, fold

Flop: (€32.75, 2 players) 3♣ K♥ 6♥

Turn: (€32.75, 2 players) T♦

River: (€32.75, 2 players) 3♥

Hero shows A♠ A♣ (Two Pair, Aces and Threes) (PreFlop 88%, Flop 63%, Turn 80%)
SB shows A♥ 7♥ (Flush, Ace High) (PreFlop 12%, Flop 37%, Turn 20%)
Hero wins €0.00
SB wins €31.12

Now I my face in in pain because....I punched myself couple of times to avoid tilt.... _o:

I've got enough. I'm going to Tibet and I'll become a monk! :f_p:


9 replies
Yoshimitsu77
Joined: 18.09.2010

MadMaXsilesia
Joined: 28.09.2010

Yeah, I know mate.
I just needed to change my anger in something else, to be able go back to tables and get my money back :) Thats why I wrote this thread.

Now everything is alright again, I'm making money and I've got biggest stacks on my tables.....WAIT.

iPoker - GBP0.25/GBP0.50 - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (BB): G75.80
UTG: G10.75
MP: G12.52
CO: G47.72
BTN: G19.01
SB: G14.25

SB posts SB G0.25, Hero posts BB G0.50

Pre Flop: (G0.75) Hero has T♦ J♥

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to G1.50, fold, Hero raises to G4.50, BTN calls G3.00

Flop: (G9.25, 2 players) A♠ K♠ Q♦
Hero bets G6.93, BTN raises to G14.51, Hero calls G7.58

Turn: (G38.27, 2 players) 8♣

River: (G38.27, 2 players) 9♥

Hero shows T♦ J♥ (Straight, Ace High) (PreFlop 43%, Flop 61%, Turn 80%)
BTN shows 6♠ Q♠ (One Pair, Queens) (PreFlop 57%, Flop 39%, Turn 20%)
Hero wins G36.36

Uff, that was scarry.
All in with flush draw vs my flop great straight.
If I'd lose this one, It'd be too much for a one day for me


brobz
Joined: 22.03.2011

that guy shoved a7s pre? lol jesus


ihufa
Joined: 18.03.2008

How on earth are you diamond


MadMaXsilesia
Joined: 28.09.2010

I was wrong. AA is winning, but only when it's against me:

iPoker - €0.25/€0.50 - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BB: €10.00
UTG: €57.58
Hero (MP): €40.24
CO: €24.50
BTN: €31.32
SB: €27.25

SB posts SB €0.25, BB posts BB €0.50

Pre Flop: (€0.75) Hero has T♣ T♠

fold, Hero raises to €1.50, CO calls €1.50, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (€3.75, 2 players) 9♣ A♦ T♥
Hero bets €2.81, CO calls €2.81

Turn: (€9.37, 2 players) 2♣
Hero bets €7.02, CO raises to €20.19, Hero calls €13.17

River: (€49.75, 2 players) 7♠

Hero mucks T♣ T♠ (Three of a Kind, Tens) (PreFlop 19%, Flop 4%, Turn 2%)
CO shows A♠ A♥ (Three of a Kind, Aces) (PreFlop 81%, Flop 96%, Turn 98%)
CO wins €47.27

How long this downswing will take?


hansbans
Joined: 21.02.2010

Originally posted by ihufa
How on earth are you diamond

+1 :f_cool:


check out this, i finished 3rd place, took 2,5k$ and just becouse this hand i couldnt run into headsup. Aces sometimes hurts much more than like 27off


MadMaXsilesia
Joined: 28.09.2010

I've got an answer for that already:

iPoker - €0.25/€0.50 - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

SB: €24.94
Hero (BB): €39.89
UTG: €10.00
CO: €11.59
BTN: €50.55

SB posts SB €0.25, Hero posts BB €0.50

Pre Flop: (€0.75) Hero has A♠ K♣

fold, CO raises to €1.50, fold, fold, Hero raises to €4.50, CO raises to €11.59, Hero calls €7.09

Flop: (€23.43, 2 players) J♠ 7♥ 9♣

Turn: (€23.43, 2 players) 8♣

River: (€23.43, 2 players) 5♠

Hero mucks A♠ K♣ (High Card, Ace) (PreFlop 43%, Flop 2%, Turn 5%)
CO shows J♣ J♦ (Three of a Kind, Jacks) (PreFlop 57%, Flop 98%, Turn 95%)
CO wins €22.26

Just great. SS with steal rate 40% and my AK was worthless this time.
But this in not the end, couple of hands later with the same opponent (he's steal rate was 40% - all game was fighting for a blinds):

iPoker - GBP0.25/GBP0.50 - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

MP: G26.75
CO: G10.00
Hero (BTN): G25.00
SB: G23.17
BB: G37.48
UTG: G14.94

SB posts SB G0.25, BB posts BB G0.50

Pre Flop: (G0.75) Hero has J♥ J♦

fold, fold, CO raises to G1.50, Hero raises to G4.50, fold, fold, CO raises to G10.00, Hero calls G5.50

Flop: (G20.75, 2 players) 4♦ 8♠ K♦

Turn: (G20.75, 2 players) Q♣

River: (G20.75, 2 players) 6♣

CO shows A♥ A♦ (One Pair, Aces) (PreFlop 82%, Flop 92%, Turn 95%)
Hero mucks J♥ J♦ (One Pair, Jacks) (PreFlop 18%, Flop 8%, Turn 5%)
CO wins G19.72

Gods of poker are in sadistc mood today.
Hand a while ago vs some agressive fish:

iPoker - €0.25/€0.50 - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: €57.69
SB: €63.58
Hero (BB): €49.25
UTG: €10.00
CO: €24.33

SB posts SB €0.25, Hero posts BB €0.50

Pre Flop: (€0.75) Hero has K♦ T♥

fold, fold, BTN raises to €1.50, fold, Hero calls €1.00

Flop: (€3.25, 2 players) K♠ 2♥ 2♦
Hero bets €2.43, BTN calls €2.43

Turn: (€8.11, 2 players) 6♦
Hero bets €6.08, BTN calls €6.08

River: (€20.27, 2 players) 4♦
Hero checks, BTN bets €10.13, Hero calls €10.13

BTN shows A♦ 8♦ (Flush, Ace High) (PreFlop 59%, Flop 16%, Turn 25%)
Hero mucks K♦ T♥ (Two Pair, Kings and Twos) (PreFlop 41%, Flop 84%, Turn 75%)
BTN wins €38.51

Another one:

iPoker - GBP0.25/GBP0.50 - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

SB: G19.63
Hero (BB): G11.01
UTG: G8.50
CO: G36.12
BTN: G57.14

SB posts SB G0.25, Hero posts BB G0.50

Pre Flop: (G0.75) Hero has 5♥ 5♦

fold, fold, BTN raises to G1.50, SB raises to G4.50, Hero raises to G10.50, fold, SB calls G6.00

Flop: (G22.50, 2 players) 2♦ A♥ 2♠
SB bets G9.13, Hero calls G0.51

Turn: (G23.52, 2 players) 8♦

River: (G23.52, 2 players) 8♠

SB shows 8♣ K♦ (Full House, Eights full of Twos) (PreFlop 45%, Flop 24%, Turn 95%)
Hero mucks 5♥ 5♦ (Two Pair, Eights and Fives) (PreFlop 55%, Flop 76%, Turn 5%)
SB wins G22.35

Like you can see - when I'm trying my luck with AK - I'm loosing.
When I'm making good reads of opponent and going all in because I've got better hand - I'm loosing.

That's why I need to ask for an advice.
Who I need to kill as as gift for gods of poker?
I think they are angry on me!
How you guys are dealing with gods of poker?
I've got 2 mates at my house atm.
Will it be enough for gods of poker? :f_o:


MadMaXsilesia
Joined: 28.09.2010

Alright guys, thanks for your atention.
My downswing just goes to an end.

My pocket aces are working fine again:

iPoker - GBP0.25/GBP0.50 - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (BTN): G25.00
SB: G57.92
BB: G31.28
UTG: G33.25
MP: G26.50
CO: G24.75

SB posts SB G0.25, BB posts BB G0.50

Pre Flop: (G0.75) Hero has A♥ A♣

fold, MP raises to G1.50, CO raises to G4.50, Hero raises to G13.50, fold, BB calls G13.00, fold, CO calls G9.00

Flop: (G42.25, 3 players) 8♠ 5♣ 8♥
BB checks, CO bets G11.25, Hero raises to G11.50, fold

Turn: (G64.75, 2 players) 2♥

River: (G64.75, 2 players) J♠

Hero shows A♥ A♣ (Two Pair, Aces and Eights) (PreFlop 80%, Flop 92%, Turn 95%)
CO shows T♣ T♦ (Two Pair, Tens and Eights) (PreFlop 20%, Flop 8%, Turn 5%)
Hero wins G61.75

iPoker - GBP0.25/GBP0.50 - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

SB: G15.23
BB: G18.00
Hero (UTG): G32.17
MP: G30.38
CO: G42.80
BTN: G25.00

SB posts SB G0.25, BB posts BB G0.50

Pre Flop: (G0.75) Hero has A♠ A♣

Hero raises to G1.50, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to G15.23, fold, Hero calls G13.73

Flop: (G30.96, 2 players) 5♠ 9♦ 4♦

Turn: (G30.96, 2 players) 7♠

River: (G30.96, 2 players) 2♥

SB shows K♠ A♦ (High Card, Ace) (PreFlop 7%, Flop 6%, Turn 0%)
Hero shows A♠ A♣ (One Pair, Aces) (PreFlop 93%, Flop 94%, Turn 100%)
Hero wins G29.42

But unfortunatly something is still wrong with pocket kings:

iPoker - GBP0.25/GBP0.50 - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

CO: G9.75
BTN: G14.70
Hero (SB): G45.61
BB: G41.27
UTG: G42.80
MP: G26.59

Hero posts SB G0.25, BB posts BB G0.50

Pre Flop: (G0.75) Hero has K♦ K♠

fold, fold, CO raises to G1.50, BTN calls G1.50, Hero raises to G6.00, fold, CO raises to G9.75, fold, Hero calls G3.75

Flop: (G21.50, 2 players) 6♥ 2♦ 9♣

Turn: (G21.50, 2 players) 5♠

River: (G21.50, 2 players) 9♠

CO shows A♦ A♠ (Two Pair, Aces and Nines) (PreFlop 83%, Flop 92%, Turn 95%)
Hero mucks K♦ K♠ (Two Pair, Kings and Nines) (PreFlop 17%, Flop 8%, Turn 5%)
CO wins G20.43

That CO guy was a regular SS who is stealing with almost everthing.

But finally I had some luck and I won a hand that I should lose:

iPoker - GBP0.25/GBP0.50 - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: G33.62
SB: G45.34
BB: G12.35
UTG: G6.00
Hero (MP): G17.59
CO: G25.50

SB posts SB G0.25, BB posts BB G0.50

Pre Flop: (G0.75) Hero has 7♥ 7♦

fold, Hero raises to G1.50, fold, fold, SB calls G1.25, fold

Flop: (G3.50, 2 players) T♦ 8♥ 9♠
SB bets G1.75, Hero raises to G6.56, SB raises to G23.18, Hero calls G9.53

Turn: (G35.68, 2 players) 8♣

River: (G35.68, 2 players) 7♠

SB shows 9♣ J♠ (Straight, Jack High) (PreFlop 46%, Flop 74%, Turn 80%)
Hero shows 7♥ 7♦ (Full House, Sevens full of Eights) (PreFlop 54%, Flop 26%, Turn 20%)
SB wins G0.00
Hero wins G33.90

Such win helps to boost morale, when you're on downswing and every day is on 0....