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[Closed] NL20 SH JJ agains 4bet 3way

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SPeedFANat1c
Joined: 04.01.2009

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.20(BB) Replayer
SB ($4.10)
Hero ($20.30)
CO ($20)
BTN ($20.20)

Dealt to Hero J♥ J♣

fold, BTN raises to $0.60, SB raises to $4.10 (AI), Hero calls $3.90, BTN raises to $20.20 (AI), fold

BTN: 17/14/3.3
steal from BTN 17
wtsd 23
hands 698

SB: 26/26/7.6
3bet vs steal in SB 17
wtsd 57
hands 712

I need 36% to be ahead at least to call the push. If I ignore the SB then JJ vs QQ+, AK has 36 % so I think I could call. The fish in SB is the profit, he might have many weaker hands.


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Beseventh
Joined: 06.01.2010

I don't like here to call. If Btn call there you'll be OOP vs BTN so it's fold or push ?


SPeedFANat1c
Joined: 04.01.2009

I don't know, I am just ahead here so often, so the first call is ok I think. But BTN should not call here too often, I think he makes push or fold most often. I think he might want to do that only with AA. But very often he is folding his 17% range.


Beseventh
Joined: 06.01.2010

If he doing this for value since he ST only 17% I would fold sometimes those JJ pre. I know it's weak but I would rather push JJ against stealer a bit looser on BTN not nitty guy like him ?


Strongsl
Joined: 19.01.2007

i only make this call with a REAL read of the BTN. first, he is real TAG. so, most of times he is no kidding here. second, ur call is already so strong that if he pushes i would say that he is QQ+ (Ak?).

UNLESS u already saw you saw he doing it previously light.


4-handed you should be ahead enough times to call there profitable both SB shove and then BU shove. Not sure he would shove there TT but very likely always AK to see all 5 cards and force you out+b he might always raise small with his KK/AA