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[Closed] Overplayed AJs, but where should I chuck it?

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Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;SB$1.96:39/13/10/-/33/-/-/100;MP1$4.34:72/17/11/4.0/17/50/-/100;Hero$3.94:///////;[/tg]
0.02/0.04 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy.com Elephant 0.105 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is BU with A♥, J♥
UTG2 folds, MP1 calls $0.04, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.18, SB raises to $0.48, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.30.

Flop: ($1.04) A♣, Q♠, 6♥ (2 players)
SB bets $0.74, Hero calls $0.74.

Turn: ($2.52) Q♥ (2 players)
SB raises $0.74 (All-In), Hero calls $0.74.

River: ($4.00) 6♦ (2 players)

Final Pot: $4.00

Results follow (highlight to see):
Hero shows (Ah Jh)
SB shows a full-house, queens full of aces (As Qd)

SB wins with a full-house, queens full of aces (As Qd)

Ok so I get taken to value town here, but where should I fold, if at all? Pre-flop, on the flop? I don't think I can fold on the turn when I get the flush draw - can't really specifically put him on AQ can I?


5 replies

Standard fold pre. SB was 13/10 and he 3-bet when MP1's still in the hand.


mylove190207
Joined: 10.04.2011
PokerStrategist

I realy wanna see what coach have to say about that situation, because I have troubles too when came to that. Anyway I prefer folding before flop, when oponent 3-bet me, because he is tight and don`t have full stack.


Tombic
Joined: 07.02.2011
Oldschool Grinder

Without reads i'd fold preflop.

If you decided to call, try to put him on range. I think he can have QQ+, AQ+s, AKo. From this range you beat only KK. Easy Fold


Originally posted by mylove190207
I realy wanna see what coach have to say about that situation, because I have troubles too when came to that. Anyway I prefer folding before flop, when oponent 3-bet me, because he is tight and don`t have full stack.

The problem here is that a mid-stack 13/10 3bet from SB usually means QQ+. Against a full stack I don't mind calling pre with AJs and play with position.

As played, when that flop hits, I don't think we can fold AJs there, because when we decided to flat AJs against a mid stack, we should be prepared to go broke with TP. So I don't mind calling down. Although it sucks and that's why pre-flop folding is standard.


veriz
Joined: 20.07.2008
BlackMember

Hello Scooney,

Nice discussion guys. :)

Preflop: My view now, there is no way we can Call vs mid-stack + such a 3bet. You ain't gonna play profitable the hand by calling since you wont hit often enough. Or either you can't overplay the hand postflop. If you had any reads/stats that he is a 3bet maniac then only reason to continue here is to go broke right here. But usually against this spot as we have it should be standard fold. No way I am going to continue.

As played
Postflop: Well, not much to add against his stack, we ain't gonna fold our TP.

Best Regards.


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