0.15/0.30 FR. TPTK against overcard on the turn

13.03.2008, 17:16 0

0,15/0,30 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A♣, J♠
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, 2 folds, Hero raises, 4 folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls.

Flop: (7,47 SB) J♥, 8♠, T♣ (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls.

Turn: (5,23 BB) Q♣ (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero checks.

River: (5,23 BB) 5♠ (3 players)
UTG+1 bets, UTG+2 folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 7,23 BB

Is it right to just check behind in the turn?
There's no better hands opponents will fold, but still straight draws I needed to protect from and make oesd pay for river.
The main reason for not betting here was uneasy decision for raise (and even 3bet) from opponents, so I wanted to see showdown as cheap as possible.
Complete straight and pair of Q are possible here, so in case of 3bet I might have thought I was behind, but still some opponents might have semi-bluffed with oesd...

8 replies

frzl

Joined: 25.04.2006

Posts: 7,533

13.03.2008, 17:22 0

mh ugly. the only hand (they would call preflop and on the flop with) you still beat is KJ and maybe 77 ^^. imo the check behind is right but i don´t even know if you can call the river for 6 to 1 after he bet into 2...
i think i would give it up on the turn because i can´t see much you can beat. every oesd got there, KQ beats you, many two pairs are possible.
i´ll stick with it but i´m interested in other opinions. especially in ciriths of course

_Anonymous_

13.03.2008, 17:41 0

Yeah, I've got your point and mostly agree with it. I didn't paid attention to the fact that he bet to 2.
Actually, UTG+1 bluff donked on the river with oesd, and I took the pot, but it's specific to lower limits only I believe. I should've called this on higher limits only if I had appropriate reads on UTG+1.

Also, we can add A9, А7 and maybe lower Axx to hands range of opponents on the turn on this limit, so it's not only KJ and 77 which I ahead

_Anonymous_

13.03.2008, 22:21 0

Close decision. Normally I bet fold this but the gutshot makes it hard to fold to a raise. Anyway I like bet/fold turn more because I think that many better hands would donkbet the turn.

If you check you have to call the river if he isn't very passive. Many players don't care against how many they bluff and just try it when they see weakness.