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Vesolc
Joined: 11.07.2007

I have two interesting hands. Very strong pocket pairs but..pushing or folding?

1)
Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)  
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/pfr/af/wts/ats/foldbb/w$sd;MP3$9.36:35/40/6/0.1/63/25/33/70;BU$13.92:161/56/18/0.5/36/49/12/39;BB$42.98:75/68/23/0.4/25/36/6/64;Hero$25:///////;[/tg]
0.10/0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A♣, A♦
Hero raises to $1.00, MP3 raises to $3.75, CO folds, BU raises to $13.92 (All-In), SB folds, BB calls $13.67, Hero raises to $25.00 (All-In), MP3 raises to $9.36 (All-In), BB calls $11.08.

fishes all over the table. It is push ok, or better to fold this spot?

2)

Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)  
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/pfr/af/wts/ats/foldbb/w$sd;SB$27.34:129/24/7/0.3/29/28/11/55;BB$25.78:242/20/9/0.5/22/13/9/50;Hero$23.80:///////;[/tg]
0.10/0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is BU with K♣, K♥
2 folds, Hero raises to $1.00, SB raises to $3.00, BB raises to $9.00, Hero raises to $23.80 (All-In), SB folds, BB calls $14.80.

decent players both of them. I would say that SB is blind defending but what about BB? strong pocket pairs (QQ, KK, AA)?. So, better to fold?


8 replies

Euhm, what ?


TerrorBlade
Joined: 16.10.2007

Is this a joke?

Firstly the first hand is HEAVEN for you. It is perfect because all these players want to go all in preflop, and you have the highest equity cause of the best hand, thus you automatically make money and its super EV++++. Never ever ever fold aces in a cash game, wtf.

Second hand, at this limit and not deepstacked always try to go all in with KK.


NO WAY YOU ARE FOLDING AA ON CASH TABLE!! It's a crime if you do that!

KK - the same, actually I folded KK once - there where three nit players all in preflop (WTF?!) so I just mucked it couse I knew that someone has AA for sure. And it was AA,QQ,JJ (JJ won with no K on the board so...inhale...exhale...)

however, don't be scared, don't play scare poker, or don't play poker at all...


chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

http://plusev.net/d/20071126.html


TribunCaesar
Joined: 29.04.2007

preflopbroke with both hands.

best regards,
TribunCaesar


Vesolc
Joined: 11.07.2007

Guys, please, don't be sharp to me. I just want to get some opinion. I did go all-in in both cases and of course I lost both.

Agree with first hand. I made simulations and I can see it is big +EV.

But in second hand situation is a little bit different:
Player 1: 49.995 % 46.102 % 7.786 % 46.112 % KsKh
Player 2: 50.005 % 46.112 % 7.786 % 46.102 % QQ+

I'm little bit behind :)...but I really think is -EV because we have to pay rake (?)


Folding = -9 $
Pushing = 0 - rake


TribunCaesar
Joined: 29.04.2007

Originally posted by Vesolc
Guys, please, don't be sharp to me. I just want to get some opinion. I did go all-in in both cases and of course I lost both.

Agree with first hand. I made simulations and I can see it is big +EV.

But in second hand situation is a little bit different:
Player 1: 49.995 % 46.102 % 7.786 % 46.112 % KsKh
Player 2: 50.005 % 46.112 % 7.786 % 46.102 % QQ+

I'm little bit behind :)...but I really think is -EV because we have to pay rake (?)

the range is way too tight. You should give him a range of JJ+ and Ak

best regards,
TribunCaesar