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[Closed] Never fold KK prefop?

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nttflox
Joined: 25.10.2007

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $52.70
UTG+1: $58.25
MP1: $64.40
MP2: $17
MP3: $63.25
CO: $23.95
Button: $56.05
SB: $8.50
BB: $49.75

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is UTG with K♥ K♠
Hero raises to $2, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, 3 folds, Button raises to $8.75, SB folds, BB raises all-in $49.75, Hero raises all-in $52.7.
Uncalled bets: $2.95 returned to Hero.

Flop: Q♠ 2♦ 7♦ ($-27.75, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $110.5)

Turn: 4♦ ($-27.75, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $110.5)

River: 6♥ ($-27.75, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $110.5)

Results:
Final pot: $-27.75


10 replies

Is hard to fold KK. You fold it only if you have reads that he is on AA ofcourse. Otherwise you are preflop way ahead to fold them.


Sigh, here we go again..... that´s my reaction to this situation, because I don´t fold KK either. NH


I would fold here if BB is reasonable full stack.
Fullring games is so tight that noone makes 4-bets without KK, AA.


you have only 2$ invested and I think the best move here is FOLD

as the others say, if you have a read on the BB that he is very loose, maybe calling can be ok


Faye6891
Joined: 09.11.2007

Originally posted by Kaitz20
I would fold here if BB is reasonable full stack.
Fullring games is so tight that noone makes 4-bets without KK, AA.

I'm pretty sure there are lots of players who 4-bets without AA-KK, and I only play FR.

Originally posted by carusel
as the others say, if you have a read on the BB that he is very loose, maybe calling can be ok

Well, I don't think that's what slikec meant.

If you do have a (very solid) read that villain has AA, then folding is OK, if not, just go ahead and make the call.

Against a very pessimistic range (AA-KK, AK), you have 47% equity holding KK, there's no way you can fold it unless you're pretty sure villain has AA (you'll hardly ever be), or else you're losing a lot of money in the long run.


vladnz
Joined: 17.01.2007

i think by folding KK pre-flop you will lose your manhood


It's still not as bad for your manhood as short stacking is.


TerrorBlade
Joined: 16.10.2007

At NL25 people go all in preflop with AK/AQ/JJ even, I can't imagine 50 is that much tighter.


Faye6891
Joined: 09.11.2007

Originally posted by SonicXT
It's still not as bad for your manhood as short stacking is.

LOL!!


Thorsten77
Joined: 28.05.2006

nh.