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NL4; SH: AJo against maniac

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IPoker, $0.02/$0.04 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $15.34 (383.5 bb)
Hero (SB): $6.84 (171 bb)
BB: $1.86 (46.5 bb)
UTG: $7.43 (185.8 bb)
MP: $4.68 (117 bb)
CO: $5 (125 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J A
UTG raises to $0.12, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.44, BB raises to $1.86 and is all-in, UTG folds, Hero calls $1.42

Flop: ($3.84) 8 Q 7 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: ($3.84) J (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($3.84) 9 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $3.84 pot ($0.25 rake)
Final Board: 8 Q 7 J 9
Hero mucked J A and lost (-$1.86 net)
BB showed Q Q and won $3.59 ($1.73 net)

Initial raiser's stats: VP/PFR/AF/Foldto3bt/hands 71/62/2.0/33%/35
BB's stats: VP/PFR/AF/hands 23/6/0.0/11.1/35

This hand seems very misplayed to me.

I hate folding because we are so ahead of the initial raiser's range, thus I have to options - 3bet or call.

I don't like calling because we are out of position and the BB can call as well, making it a 3way pot. We would have to play check/fold too often.

I don't mind 3betting it because the initial raiser is the sort of a guy who calls with worse very often and that would also keep BB from calling thus making us HU agains the fish. I don't think that BB is 4betting there with a wide range.

I read your suggested article on Mathematical concepts and now I know how to calculate the equity we need in order to make a call profitable. Once the BB shoves and the first raiser folds we need 40% equity to call. I tried some ranges out in PS equilator and our hand is mostly garbage against his range and I honestly don't think our opponent 4bets light enough for us to call. In fact, the call from me was very terrible.

What I would like to ask you though is: do you agree with me that a 3bet there is better than a call? Because we can safely fold if BB shoves, which he shouldn't be doing too often IMO.


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veriz
Joined: 20.07.2008

Hello Avatars91,

3betting there is of course is fine but I don't really like that much the go-broke vs the ship. His PFR is even really small and more often your hand is dominated there. I doubt that we are even flipping.

Best Regards.


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i agree with your logic and i think that you know where you went wrong. you know your likely ahead of the preflop raisers range and behind a ship in the big blind. everything was read correctly besides the call of the ship, which you know. i think you have this one figured out for next time


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Thanks, guys!


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