NL4; SH: AJs 3bet

Hello Avatars91,

Calling is always an option to keep weaker hands in the play, with hands like AJo it's rather a 3bet than a Call but with suited hand you can easily play even in multiway pot.

Best Regards.

1) So the fact that the BB is a shortstack does not speak against a call preflop
2) AJo would then be a definite 3bet instead of a call?

Originally posted by Avatars91
1) So the fact that the BB is a shortstack does not speak against a call preflop
2) AJo would then be a definite 3bet instead of a call?

Why should it speak against a Call? We still are playing against PFA mainly and AJo would be yes, rather a 3bet.

Ok, so if a call is ok in this spot, I must admit that I would find it superior to a 3bet because the initial raiser folds extremely often against 3bets.

The problem for me would be postflop though - our opponent Cbets somewhere around 70% so more often than not I would have to be prepared to make a move against him since we hit only 30%.

The question: if the flop misses us and is dry, since I have not posted his CbetTurn stat, would it be ok if I raised his Cbet? I wouldn't float without knowing how often he 2nd barrels.

Depends a lot on the flop and if it's very likely him to hit the flop or not. At some boards we could consider even raising if he has rather higher CB on turn.

Since I suspect his range to be wide would you suggest raising his flop Cbet on dry boards only?

Originally posted by Avatars91
Since I suspect his range to be wide would you suggest raising his flop Cbet on dry boards only?

That again would depend how the opponent play postflop. There is no default action in poker.

If I tried that out would it be a big mistake / bad approach?

Originally posted by Avatars91
If I tried that out would it be a big mistake / bad approach?

On those stakes also pretty close since you rarely make any pairs to fold. Don't stick too much to the videos you watch on pokerstrategy since they are mainly from higher limits where people are more reasonable but here they even Call with Ax hands and not to talk about any pair. ♦

On those stakes also pretty close since you rarely make any pairs to fold. Don't stick too much to the videos you watch on pokerstrategy since they are mainly from higher limits where people are more reasonable but here they even Call with Ax hands and not to talk about any pair.

I would of course look at each individual opponent and only then consider such a move. Don't you think the opponent we are facing in this particular hand seems reasonable enough for us to make such a play?

Originally posted by Avatars91

On those stakes also pretty close since you rarely make any pairs to fold. Don't stick too much to the videos you watch on pokerstrategy since they are mainly from higher limits where people are more reasonable but here they even Call with Ax hands and not to talk about any pair.

I would of course look at each individual opponent and only then consider such a move. Don't you think the opponent we are facing in this particular hand seems reasonable enough for us to make such a play?

If my hand is strong enough to play even postflop then I don't really see the reason to pick such a line while we also have a shorty behind us. He wont continue anyways with worse Ax hands so you just going for the fold.

then I don't really see the reason to pick such a line while we also have a shorty behind us.

The shortstack doesn't seem to be the squeezing type so I expect to be HU IP very often.

He wont continue anyways with worse Ax hands so you just going for the fold.

3betting seems like a waste of our hand strength as he folds so often. If we call and are HU IP against his weaker range I consider that to be such an advantage that 3betting looks even worse. Since he Cbets a lot, we can make a raise on some boards even and make him fold postflop. I don't see too many reasons why this line / strategy is totally unplayable.

Once again I don't really get your question. Please re-read my 1st evaluation might get answer. You are starting to argue like with my words now from the 1st post. Your words "3betting seems like a waste of our hand strength as he folds so often."

I must have misunderstood your previous post, sorry.

Ok, I sort of got it, I think. It's ok to call (I would even prefer it), but in order to raise his flop Cbet once I miss I have to take a look on some stats, not just the CbetFlop stat.