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[Closed] NL200HU- flopped bottom set

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chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

so i took a shot on NL200HU with my iPoker bankroll (which i only have 20 stacks online for) cause i can't withdraw from that site for a long time :|. wonder if this hand was OK.

saw flop | saw showdown

Button Button ($173.40)
BB Hero ($223.50)

Preflop: Hero is in the BB with 3h 3c
Button raises to 3, Hero raises to 11, Button calls 7.

Flop (22) Ts 3s 5h
Hero checks, Button bets 10, Hero calls 10.

Turn (42) Ad
Hero checks, Button checks.

River (42) Jh
Hero bets 31, Button raises to 64, Hero moves all-in for 171.50, Button moves all-in for 88.40

lets ignore the flop play. is the rest OK? i knew it was quite a drawy board, and i figured villain had some sort of made hand, hence i didn't figure villain would hand out a free card with the draws out there. i was going to go for a c/r, possibly c/rai depending, and a shove on the river.

edit: removed results.


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RMB
RMB
Joined: 29.03.2008

I actually like the c/r plan, cause i do it alot and it works.

I'm no pro but i say you played it well.


i would call on the river, unless he s ultra agressive, because it's likely he has KQ and made his runner runner straight which would explain check on turn but this a far-fetched read.
maybe he'd also do that with AT AJ really hard to say whithout seeing the guy play, especially in HU

what was the result ?


give some info or history about villain cuz is very important hu . is he aggressive / passive ? did you 3 beted him alot ? how does he responds to 3bets ? can he flat JJ - AA ? can he call light like 24s ?


chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

villain generally pretty straightforward-aggressive. plays top pair hands like they're the nuts.

yes i've 3bet him, but no, not a lot.

i can't pin him on a flatcall range pre, he hasn't 4bet yet. i don't imagine he's calling too tight preflop.

he had KQ. but i think even with AK, he raises river and calls my push so... question is really whether the c/c c/r bet plan was viable


Well, I'd bet out somewhere, but that's because im extremely aggressive HU (ask swissmoumout). A check from me would've been very suspicious. I think if you're not that aggressive, slowplaying through all streets is fine.


Originally posted by chenny8888
villain generally pretty straightforward-aggressive. plays top pair hands like they're the nuts.

well if you have that read i am very inclined in calling the river because if he has an ace here and he plays it like a very strong hand after his scared bet on the flop he would certainly go for value with top pair on the turn not for pot control so i am more inclined to remove top pair( or two pair a10 aj ) from his range so i may think he can do this with a better set or a straight


chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

he'll go crazy with JT, et al. also.. doesn't need top two! :P.

in fact, i think he'd play KJ, QJ, possibly even KT, QT the same way..


Timor83
Joined: 08.06.2007

No way you can fold this in a HU game. He may have 2 pair that he thinks is raising for value.
I'd bet the flop btw ;) Since you were the preflopagressor it's very suspicious that you don't bet here, at least for me.


chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

indeed. that's why i asked you to ignore my flop play.

i sort of autopilot-assumed that i'd flatcalled someone's 3bet, and that i should take the c/c c/r line.

optimal line for me i think would be bet flop, bet turn, shove river if he called. or bet/call flop, check/raise turn, shove river if he raised me.


swissmoumout
Joined: 24.02.2007

Originally posted by chenny8888
optimal line for me i think would be bet flop, bet turn, shove river if he called. or bet/call flop, check/raise turn, shove river if he raised me.

yep. I would almost never check after 3-betting.

Originally posted by helemaalnicks
im extremely aggressive HU (ask swissmoumout)

yeah, but that's because you were playing against a passive fish ^^


am I the only one thinking sudden excitement on river has runner runner straight written all over it ?
i dunno why, but to me KQ just pops out as the most probable hand


Cojack123
Joined: 28.08.2006

optimal line for me i think would be bet flop, bet turn, shove river if he called. or bet/call flop, check/raise turn, shove river if he raised me.

as played you cant fold