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NL200 - limping AA

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drachdudek
Joined: 06.11.2007

Cake Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (5 handed) - Cake-Poker Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button ($262.39)
Button ($262.39)
Hero (SB) ($235.26)
BB ($144.54)
UTG ($35.70)
MP ($412.85)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9♦, 9♣
BB calls $2, 1 fold, MP calls $2, 2 folds, Hero bets $9, BB raises to $20, 1 fold, Hero calls $11

Flop: ($43) 5♦, 2♠, 7♠ (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $30, Hero calls $30

Turn: ($103) 10:heart: (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $100, Hero calls $100

River: ($303) 8♣ (2 players)
Hero raises to $112.39 (All-In), BB calls $85.26 (All-In)

Total pot: $173.55

Results:
Hero had 9♦, 9♣ (one pair, nines).
BB had A♦, A♣ (one pair, Aces).
Outcome: BB won $470.52

First time i saw him at athe tables, but after observing him playing before this hand, he was playing strange, but to do that, i was surprised :evil:, but obviously not a bad player after several hands seeing him play?

What do you think, why people do that, and why good players do that, table and players were not so loose?

How would you play, should i Fold turn?


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getdotacom
Joined: 06.04.2008

Do what ? That small raise preflop ? Without any history and stats I'd fold flop. I'm calling only for set value in these spots, don't like to blindly stack off with marginal hand. Calling flop and hope he stops betting is foolish.


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lui69
Joined: 27.01.2007

Turn is a FOLD imo.. very simple and clear tbh ..

Do u see him on any kind of draw or draw + Overs playing like this ?
If not .. does he try to protect his hand ? Overpair ? Set ? T9 ?

Even against draws + FD your not in a great shape .. the point is.. you are always in a guessing game ..

To Villain .. he pld it so damn nice.. he was soooooo lucky that no J, no Q, no K, no Ace no Spade showed up, no doubt ..he just catched a nice setup, but he just gained the max value .. this cards would have slown u down .. so in THIS Case. and this betting patterns are def. a notable behaviour imo ..
u have to think twice about his flop and turnplay ---> since he has the same range on flop as he has on turn (think about the turncard) .. now assuming that .. do u still think he bets out pott on turn with a marginal hand ?

Simple fold on turn to me,
Sinceraly

PS: Please excuse my bad english .. it was good enough here in germany so complain about it @ my former teachers ^^

EDIT: Fold pre is nice getdotacom,

but on that flop i have to call at least once .. the most people play it pretty honest on turn in a 3bet pott.. so i have to call the flop at least once i think he will split his range pretty often to a wawb- sit on the turn... although.. its not worth OOP .. i dont like those guessing games..And honestly u gotta have a plan if u do this


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Bierbaer
Joined: 27.05.2005

I pretty much agree with the previous posters: It's a c/f on the flop unless you have a plan founded on good reasons.
This can even be c/f turn if you know he's not barreling, but c/calling flop just because you have an overpair is very -EV because you basically have exactly what you representso he can play perfectly against you.

W/o any info I therefore don't like c/calldown either unless you have a read that people barrel a lot in those situations in general, so as played it's a c/f on the turn to me.

Btw why is the title "limping AA"? Isn't the 3bettor the BB and it's only the handhistory that is messed up a little?
If he was actually limp/reraising, then it's a supereasy fold on the flop to me because this line is usually exactly this: AA (so the call pre is simply for setvalue).


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drachdudek
Joined: 06.11.2007

Originally posted by Bierbaer
I pretty much agree with the previous posters: It's a c/f on the flop unless you have a plan founded on good reasons.

IN SOME HANDS BEFORE HE WAS BLUFFBETTING - BARRELING A LOT SO I THOUGHT HE WAS A FISH :( :( ESPECIALLY HE NEVERED LIMPED CALL OR RAISE, SO I THOUGH HIS RANGE CAN BE VERY WIDE..

This can even be c/f turn if you know he's not barreling, but c/calling flop just because you have an overpair is very -EV because you basically have exactly what you representso he can play perfectly against you.

AS I SAID BEFORE, HIS BARRELING IN SOME HANDS BEFORE WAS REALLY STRANGE,,,

W/o any info I therefore don't like c/calldown either unless you have a read that people barrel a lot in those situations in general, so as played it's a c/f on the turn to me.

:f_cool:, YES, I ADMIT, OBVIOUS MISTAKE...

Btw why is the title "limping AA"? Isn't the 3bettor the BB and it's only the handhistory that is messed up a little?

YES, SOMETHING WRONG WITH HH?!

If he was actually limp/reraising, then it's a supereasy fold on the flop to me because this line is usually exactly this: AA (so the call pre is simply for setvalue).


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Bierbaer
Joined: 27.05.2005

Well ok, you should have provided those reads in the first place.
Given you saw him barreling with air I think the check/calldown is fine, but the openshove on the river still doesn't make any sense as a fish is most certainly not folding any better hand than ours and it's hard to call worse, imo he mucks Ahigh vs the shove but he might very well continue to barrel with it.


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Heave112
Joined: 27.03.2009

snap fold what are u thinking about...


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