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axelphoney
Joined: 03.10.2009

sigh, once again misslick.. SH as evryone can see ;)

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NL Holdem $1(BB) Replayer
Hero ($93)
BB ($124)
CO ($116)
BTN ($134)

Dealt to Hero A♦ K♣

CO raises to $3, BTN calls $3, Hero raises to $12, fold, CO calls $9, fold

FLOP ($28) 8♣ 5♣ 8♦

Hero checks, CO bets $11, Hero calls $11

TURN ($50) 8♣ 5♣ 8♦ 6♦

Hero checks, CO bets $20, Hero folds

CO wins $48

villain; 24/20 - 25% fold to 3bet (12)
notes:
call topset 77 762r, raise To, bet all in blank R
r/c KJo MP vs CO - ch FD A62cc, bomb hit xc, c/r all in x

I am probably better off just cbetting flop myself here, and then barrel most turncards. But now I decided to go with a line a rarly use.

He should have a very wide range here on the flop and turn (I guess almost all broadways, and probably som SC, middle PPs), but most importantly a very narrow valuebet range. Probably only like A8s(87s), 99-TT (where we could probably discount TT a little bit, since he is likely to 4bet it from time to time).

So as played here, how are you continuing with the hand on the turn (and if called river)?


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Bierbaer
Joined: 27.05.2005

Under the assumption he has that wide of a range the only option is calldown.
If you plan on c/f the turn you should not c/c the flop as you're putting in lots of dead money which is exploitable.

If he's that aggressive I prefer to cbet myself:
Most opponents are floating a lot anyway, so we can valuebet vs stuff like AQo and KJs!


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axelphoney
Joined: 03.10.2009

I didn't really understand the last thing you said. If we cbet the flop then we are barreling to fold out these hands that you mentioned (although we have them beat)? And ofc also other potential floats.

If so, then another quesiton arises:

Are going to bet the river as well if we get called on the turn?


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Bierbaer
Joined: 27.05.2005

Sorry, I think my post wasn't clear.

I meant that an aggressive opponent will probably bet most of the time on the flop if we check to him, but at the same time he will not fold to a bet either.
And overall our range for betting is weaker than the one for c/calling because when we bet we can have pure air whereas when we c/c we usually have at least smth like Ahigh or equity.

So the range that gets money in on the flop is wider if we bet.
And subsequently he will bet this weak range on the turn vs a check whereas if we c/c the flop some air hands will just give up.

So my comment was not about the turnbet, it was about the cbet on the flop.
On the turn I'd indeed c/c after cbetting.


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Bierbaer
Joined: 27.05.2005

About your last question:
It's the other way around: I'd only bet the turn if I planned on betting the river because oftentimes people call twice with some SD-value and fold the river.

But then I'm obv turning my hand into a bluff on the turn.


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