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allen82082
Joined: 08.06.2011

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[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;Hero$3.83:///////;CO$11.51:153/17/11/2.8/18/31/50/75;BU$3.98:24/38/0/0.4/13/-/100/0;[/tg]
0.05/0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy.com Elephant 0.105 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q♥, Q♣
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, MP3 folds, CO calls $0.30, BU calls $0.30, 2 folds.

Flop: ($1.05) T♠, T♦, 7♥ (3 players)
Hero bets $0.8, CO calls $0.80, BU folds.

Turn: ($2.65) 4♠ (2 players)
Hero bets $2.73 (All-In), CO calls $2.73.

River: ($8.11) 8♠ (2 players)

Final Pot: $8.11


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Gerv
Joined: 07.05.2008

Hey,

Question for you:
CO plays 17/11, so he is considered a TAG player. With what kind of worse hands would he call your all-in on the Turn?

Let me know!


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Gerv
Joined: 07.05.2008

Originally posted by Gerv
Hey,

Question for you:
CO plays 17/11, so he is considered a TAG player. With what kind of worse hands would he call your all-in on the Turn?

Let me know!

Can you answer the question please? :)


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Gerv
Joined: 07.05.2008

So since you didn't answered the question which is unfortunate :( I will finalize this hand by judging it.

I think you just have to bet small because I don't think people will call with worse on your bet. Furthermore you want worse to be calling with your QQ so I think the shove is pretty bad

Best regards,
Gerv


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allen82082
Joined: 08.06.2011

I am really very sorry,Gerv. :f_mad: :f_mad:
Until today, I saw the hands.

Turn i bet all in totally because the form tell me if i want bet and the size is 1/2size i could all in.
In fact,on the line i tend to follow the form,Do not believe that own thinking.
It is a weakness of my.But i do not kown When i should follow the form,when i must believe myself?
On the turn i bet 1/2 pot and call his raise?
Or all in on the river?


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Gerv
Joined: 07.05.2008

You should think about ''What worse hands will call me if I bet X versus betting Y?''

In this example, there is no way worse hands will call on your shove

Best regards,
Gerv


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allen82082
Joined: 08.06.2011

You should think about ''What worse hands will call me if I bet X versus betting Y?''

Thank u Gerv!

In this example, there is no way worse hands will call on your shove

i think it is Ok.
But what can i do on the turn?
Check/ call or check/ fold or bet / fold?

In fact on the folp i CBet is wrong too? there is no worse hands will call me?
The Cbet is a protection bet?
Sorry i think i am so foolish to understand what can i do is Ok.
Any way I will continue to work hard. :evil:


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Alesh123
Joined: 02.03.2009

The only hand that will call will be JJ i guess.
So my oppinion is: you are underdog after flop against that player on average.
He has : W$SD WTS (75/18). So he goes to showdown when he has good hands - so he don't bluff a lot.
So on turn you c/fold.

So why you thing to call ?
If he has AT or. 77 how many outs do you have agains him for call?
Btw i will also bet all-in if bet will be larger than 1/2 of my money.

I guess Gerv want you to bet a little more than he need to call with flush.

Btw that is just my (beginner) opinion:)

Ashko


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allen82082
Joined: 08.06.2011

He has : W$SD WTS (75/18). So he goes to showdown when he has good hands - so he don't bluff a lot.

Nice!
Thank u very much! :)


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Gerv
Joined: 07.05.2008

CO plays superstandard so I bet like $1.2 on the Turn to lure those worse pocket pairs in

If he shoves, I don't think it is a mistake to bet/call the Turn

Your flop cBet sizing is also big because you want worse pocket pairs to be still calling you all day long

- Gerv


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allen82082
Joined: 08.06.2011

If he shoves, I don't think it is a mistake to bet/call the Turn

Why?
I guess because if i bet 1.2 Co shove my required equity is 1.53/(2.65+1.2+1.53+1.53)=22%
zh.pokerstrategy.com
牌面:: Td7hTs4s
赢率 胜 和
MP2 35.35% 35.35% 0.00% { QhQc }
CO 64.65% 64.65% 0.00% { JJ-TT, 77, ATs, ATo }
Is it right?

Your flop cBet sizing is also big because you want worse pocket pairs to be still calling you all day long

Your means is i bet 0.8 on the flop is too big?
Just o.6 is ok? :)


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Gerv
Joined: 07.05.2008

Originally posted by allen82082

If he shoves, I don't think it is a mistake to bet/call the Turn

Why?
I guess because if i bet 1.2 Co shove my required equity is 1.53/(2.65+1.2+1.53+1.53)=22%
zh.pokerstrategy.com
牌面:: Td7hTs4s
赢率 胜 和
MP2 35.35% 35.35% 0.00% { QhQc }
CO 64.65% 64.65% 0.00% { JJ-TT, 77, ATs, ATo }
Is it right?

You just answered your own question :f_biggrin: I would add 88/99 as well btw

Your flop cBet sizing is also big because you want worse pocket pairs to be still calling you all day long

Your means is i bet 0.8 on the flop is too big?
Just o.6 is ok? :)

Yes that's better :)!


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