$22 AKo fold?

I have been in this mindset before with same thoughts as you. Try not to level yourself too much. He should be shoving a ton of worse Ax as well so most of the time you have a flip or much better.

Fold would be bad, imo - i.e. you get exploited in manner of speaking.

Still 2 off the bubble so we don't have to be too risk averse even though we are 2nd.

Nh.

i never fold there. I dont expect him to shove JJ+ and AK there so we crush his range. Also not sure if he`s gonna shove 22-55 there. I put him on smthin like AT-AQ KQ 66-TT /55-JJ/

u guys need to check the ICM on this. its JJ+ vs a reasonable range with these stacks

Originally posted by lessthanthreee
u guys need to check the ICM on this. its JJ+ vs a reasonable range with these stacks

You mean Pet and me, or OP, or all of us? I thought OP plays 5max turbos on Ongame with 70:30 structure.

If so,

http://www.holdemresources.net/hr/sngs/icmcalculator.html?action=calculate&bb=200&sb=100&ante=0&structure=0.7%2C+0.3&s1=2490&s2=490&s3=990&s4=1350&s5=2180&s6=&s7=&s8=&s9=

UTG nash push is 24.3%; BB nash call is ATo+/77+. UTG would have to be a lot tighter than Nash before we can start folding AK here.

I think this raises an important point (regardless of whether I'm right about what OP plays or the correct push/call ranges): Title of threads must make structure clear. We can't expect the judge to know if this is one off bubble on a FR game or 5 max or 6 max or w/e. Judge has enough hands to review without having to guess what we are playing.

Thx

This is 5max - I don't think I can ever find a fold here with AKo

Originally posted by Tim64

Originally posted by lessthanthreee
u guys need to check the ICM on this. its JJ+ vs a reasonable range with these stacks

You mean Pet and me, or OP, or all of us? I thought OP plays 5max turbos on Ongame with 70:30 structure.

If so,

http://www.holdemresources.net/hr/sngs/icmcalculator.html?action=calculate&bb=200&sb=100&ante=0&structure=0.7%2C+0.3&s1=2490&s2=490&s3=990&s4=1350&s5=2180&s6=&s7=&s8=&s9=

UTG nash push is 24.3%; BB nash call is ATo+/77+. UTG would have to be a lot tighter than Nash before we can start folding AK here.

UTG is not pushing Nash here, I'm certain about that. However, he has to be pushing less than 10% to make this a fold, which I agree, is too tight.

I think this raises an important point (regardless of whether I'm right about what OP plays or the correct push/call ranges): Title of threads must make structure clear. We can't expect the judge to know if this is one off bubble on a FR game or 5 max or 6 max or w/e. Judge has enough hands to review without having to guess what we are playing.

You are right Tim, I usually put it in the thread title, but sometimes I forget.

And yeah it is 5max.

should have looked at the stacks. thought it was FR.

call in 5max. something like AK+ TT+

Originally posted by lessthanthreee
should have looked at the stacks. thought it was FR.

call in 5max. something like AK+ TT+

Aint that too tight? I think most of the ppl will raise in his spot with at least KK+ to try to induce. Even if they shove that and shove smthin like 12-13% / that is tight too / we can call AQ and 99 and they are both like +1%. I would call here at least AQ and 88 unless utg is ultra nit and shoves KK+ /QQ+/ in this spot,

2%-10% - AQo is -0.43
2%-7% - AQo is -1.88
2%-12% - AQo is 0.68

this is very sensitive to ranges because of the stack set-up. if villain is shipping KQs/55 types then AQ is a healthy call. if hes on a more 'standard' tight range of something like AK 77-JJ then AQ is a very -EV call.