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pericas1991
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12.03.2012, 17:17

so im really not sure of ranges atm, think that a big downer is influencing my confidence, so i want to ask what would a normal shoving range be in the spot of my opponent, and aggainst that range if my call is fine which i think it was.. :f_p:

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BTN: t4850 M = 8.43
SB: t1391 M = 2.42
BB: t4265 M = 7.42
UTG: t966 M = 1.68
UTG+1: t2711 M = 4.71
MP1: t1270 M = 2.21
Hero (MP2): t7164 M = 12.46
CO: t968 M = 1.68

Pre Flop: (t575) Hero is MP2 with Q :spade: A :diamond:
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to t2686 all in, 1 fold, Hero raises to t7139 all in, 4 folds

Flop: (t5947) K :club: A :spade: 7 :heart: (2 players - 2 are all in)

Turn: (t5947) 9 :heart: (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: (t5947) K :spade: (2 players - 2 are all in)


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TheRebuz
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13.03.2012, 04:57

imo KQ,AJ+, ATs+,66+


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15.03.2012, 01:49

77+ AJ+, so many ppl to act behind u. in fact 77, 88 and AJ are quite close...


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15.03.2012, 04:12

Originally posted by chenny8888
77+ AJ+, so many ppl to act behind u. in fact 77, 88 and AJ are quite close...

yea i agree that my range is loose but is obv UTG+1 imo is making -EV push in this spot if he is any descent, and for reasons that ther are lot players to act behind u u should tighten ur ranges


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15.03.2012, 07:50

dont' think he's that wide for 10.5 bb


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15.03.2012, 08:46

Originally posted by chenny8888
dont' think he's that wide for 10.5 bb

hmm, look at utg stack imo this is last spot that UTG+1 can make -ev shove


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02.05.2012, 05:05

Could be true could be false, our end ranges don't differ that much anyway.


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07.05.2012, 14:00

so if the guy is on 77+, AJ+, and the fact that there r lots of guys behind me, AQ is a fold then in this spot?


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07.05.2012, 17:22

Originally posted by pericas1991
so if the guy is on 77+, AJ+, and the fact that there r lots of guys behind me, AQ is a fold then in this spot?

hmmm 77+,AJ+ should be calling ranges for u imo

pusher imo is wider then that something like 22+,every 2 face cards, SC, AX+, K8+ etc


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07.05.2012, 19:30

hmm, am i missing smth??
UTG is shoving for 11bbs, is it normal to svove 22+,every 2 face cards, SC, AX+, K8+ with that stack from UTG? xD


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08.05.2012, 02:50

Originally posted by pericas1991
hmm, am i missing smth??
UTG is shoving for 11bbs, is it normal to svove 22+,every 2 face cards, SC, AX+, K8+ with that stack from UTG? xD

i would shove 90% of this range most of the times in UTG spot -> 22+, A2s+, K8s+, Q8s+, J8s+, T8s+, 98s, 87s, A8o+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo


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13.05.2012, 08:46

Originally posted by TheRebuz

Originally posted by pericas1991
hmm, am i missing smth??
UTG is shoving for 11bbs, is it normal to svove 22+,every 2 face cards, SC, AX+, K8+ with that stack from UTG? xD

i would shove 90% of this range most of the times in UTG spot -> 22+, A2s+, K8s+, Q8s+, J8s+, T8s+, 98s, 87s, A8o+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo

this is so spewy against good opponents, you just get called so wide. take the blinds instead. i dislike being so much looser than nash.


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13.05.2012, 10:21

which shoving range do u think chenny to be pretty good here?? :f_p:


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15.05.2012, 00:16

In his shoes I would be shoving Axs+ A9o+ 22+ K9s+ KJo+ QTs+ QJo JTs

Not sure about A9o.

also note that not everyone plays like me, I've seen some very profitable players shove much wider than myself. To that I would claim that they play 20bbs a lot better than other people do, or just run amazing. Cause basically: people are calling us wider than Nash usually, so if we are also pushing wider than nash, that is simply a mistake.


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