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50nl tptk w AT 3bet pot facing turn shove

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z0fman
Joined: 28.10.2011

villain is tag 20/15/2.8 with 20% open from the button and 72% fold to 3bet
its a fold on the turn??

On Game, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BB: $61.04 (122.1 bb)
MP: $10.02 (20 bb)
CO: $22.25 (44.5 bb)
BTN: $64.13 (128.3 bb)
Hero (SB): $89.70 (179.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T A
2 folds, BTN raises to $1.25, Hero raises to $4.25, BB folds, BTN calls $3

Flop: ($9) T 9 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $6.75, BTN calls $6.75

Turn: ($22.50) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $15, BTN raises to $53.13 and is all-in, Hero folds

Results: $52.50 pot ($2.62 rake)
Final Board: T 9 8 9
BTN mucked and won $49.88 ($23.88 net)
Hero mucked T A and lost (-$26 net)


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I would snap call as played

I would not 3bet pre vs a 20% open and a 72% ft3b though


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jachis
Joined: 07.04.2008

I think that I'd prefer flatting pre and 3betting some crappier hands, even ATo would be better, cause villain is most likley folding pre to a 3bet so its a waste of a decent hand.
When villain folds 72% to 3bet his continuing only 5,8% wide range. HIs should bet 4betting QQ+ AK, so theres not much for him to call here KQ-AQ, AJ and 88-JJ.
Youre also a bit deep. I have no idea what can villain play like this, cause his line doesnt make sense to me. This makes me wanna call here. But in the game I would probably also fold without any reads that villain spews from time to time.


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veriz
Joined: 20.07.2008

Hello z0fman,

Preflop: Not a huge fan of 3betting either here and just forcing all the weaker Tx/Ax hands out of the pot and mainly he continues with dominated range. Rather flat and play postflop vs such a small raise.

As played
Postflop: While also even being deeper and his fold to 3bet is rather bigger one I would assume he is rather having more towards made hands there. Could also include even strong overpairs. Therefore I'd also Bet/Fold it. Not much of information on his WTSD/W$SD nor how aggressive he could be nor what image we had on the table.

Best Regards.


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Originally posted by CallumN
I would not 3bet pre vs a 20% open and a 72% ft3b though

When you would 3bet? If he opens more than ...%? Or when he folds more than ...%?


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We need to decide if we are 3betting for value or as a bluff.

Vs this guy we are 3betting ATs as a bluff. He opens too tight and folds too much. This hand is far to good to be 3betting as a bluff and therefore we should be just calling.

I would use weaker hands like 78s etc to 3bet him with.

What im saying is I would still 3bet this guy with a high frequency but not with a hand like ATs


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