[Closed] NL 100 TT call turn 4-way flush board?

call turn i think, 6:1 implied odds is very good.

i'm assuming he's never laying down his flush, which is reasonable assumption here.

you can call

3bet preflop please!

Originally posted by sw0ldo
3bet preflop please!

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Originally posted by swissmoumout

Originally posted by sw0ldo
3bet preflop please!

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FYP

and btw, chenny's right, you've got 10 outs and 6 : 1

Originally posted by swissmoumout

Originally posted by sw0ldo
3bet preflop please!

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-1, 3betting TAG UTG raise with TT from MP is just leaky, IMO. call and setmine

Hand 0: 58.463% 57.89% 00.57% 826705236 8185812.00 { TT }
Hand 1: 41.537% 40.96% 00.57% 584984676 8185812.00 { 22+, ATs+, KQs, AJo+, KQo }

We realy need to define our hand for the sake of reverse implied odds, setmining with TT is just far too weak imo.

i don't raise ATs, from UTG, but also, a couple of tigher TAGS especially guys with this nittish sort of stats, do not raise 22-66 UTG. he's 15/11 ffs.

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 51.954% 51.30% 00.65% 563975868 7156080.00 { TT }
Hand 1: 48.046% 47.39% 00.65% 521011140 7156080.00 { 77+, AJs+, KQs, AJo+, KQo }

Thats a very tight UTG raising range imo.

11% PFR very tight stats, IMO. that range is accurate, if he is even opening KQo UTG. however when he is turbomucking much of the range we're beating to our raise, added to the fact that TT plays pretty horribly against the range he will call our 3bet with, this is a clear setmining spot IMO.

only way we can 3bet here is if we disregard his stats from being too small a sample size... and personally i'd much rather use the small amt of stats than disregarding them...

I agree to chenny again, I don't reraise this one either. Do we have a "User of the month" promotion running here too, I nominate chenny ♦ And to hijack this thread, what are you playing, you have some good train of thoughts.

Hot-and-cold equity vs. a 11% openraising range doesn't help us too much here, yes we are ahead here but if we raise, he doesnt call with the whole 11% range and our equity drops significantly. But I'm also not going to setmine, I will continue on some good boards.

i played NL100SH but i stopped after hitting a 15BI downswing (don't worry, i was still up 1000$). withdrew tons, so i'm now playing sngs again, until i hit 3k$ then i decide again

ty for your compliments/nomination

sw0ldo's (first) range seems dead on, maybe drop the KQo (I play 16/12 when i 12+ table and this range seems to be mine + some random scons).

15/11 raise any PP from any position trust me, I always 3bet this.

Originally posted by carebax
sw0ldo's (first) range seems dead on, maybe drop the KQo (I play 16/12 when i 12+ table and this range seems to be mine + some random scons).

15/11 raise any PP from any position trust me, I always 3bet this.

ok, wait... so he's 15/11..

and he raises any pocket pair from any position.

so his range UTG is 22+, AJo+, ATs+, KQs, KQo. which would mean that his button range is exactly equal to his UTG range. that makes no sense whatsoever.. come on...

even IF his range was 22+, AJo+, ATs+, KQ, TT is so incredibly hard to play against his 3bet-call range with 100BB stacks regardless of position.

Button range is wider obv, he's prolly 9/9 or 10/10 utg which means he has about the range swoldo provided (maybe he even folds KQs, ATs and AJo).

My point just was that eventhough he's a nit he will raise pocket pairs from any position.

Yes, but the point is, we are not allin after our reraise so we can't stove vs. 11% range, but have to play in a big pot postflop vs. an even stronger range of hands.

I retract my statement, I prefer calling here.

I think its too late to add something to the discussion which hasn't been said before - good analysis, guys!