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TribunCaesar
Joined: 29.04.2007

This is a list of how how many VPP´s you earn per limit. It might be informative for you.

NO-LIMIT FR:

NL10 FR =...........2,9 - 4......VPP/100
NL25 FR =.......... 10-12.......VPP/100
NL50 FR =...........22-26.......VPP/100
NL100 FR = ........30-38.......VPP/100
NL200 FR =.........46-49.......VPP/100
NL400 FR = ........57-67.......VPP/100
NL600 FR = ........75........... VPP/100
NL1000 FR = ......100......... VPP/100

NO-LIMIT SH:

NL10 SH =..........3.22........VPP/100
NL25 SH =..........10-11......VPP/100
NL50 SH =..........22............VPP/100
NL100 SH =........46............VPP/100
NL200 SH =........53............VPP/100
NL400 SH =........66............VPP/100
NL600 SH =........71............VPP/100
NL1000 SH =......80............VPP/100

FIXED LIMIT FR:
0,5/1 FL FR =........17...........VPP/100

FIXED LIMIT SH:
FFP's:
0,5/1 FL SH= ......20-23.......VPP/100
1/2 FL SH =.........38-39.......VPP/100
2/4 FL SH =........ 45........... VPP/100
3/6 FL SH =........ 70-80...... VPP/100
5/10 FL SH = .....110-120....VPP/100
10/20 FL SH = ...140-155... VPP/100
15/30 FL SH = ...166.......... VPP/100

PL OMAHA:
PLO 25 ............... 20...........VPP/100
PLO 100.............. 43...........VPP/100
PLO 200 ............. 80...........VPP/100

RAKE:

NO-LIMIT FR:
NL10 FR =.............6.4 BB/100...(21k hands)
NL25 FR =.............7.2 BB/100...(37k hands)

FIXED LIMIT FR:
0,5/1 FL FR =.....2,17 BB/100...(16k Hands)

FIXED LIMIT SH:
0,25/0,5 FL SH.....2.52 BB/100...(22k hands)
0,5/1 FL SH..........2.45 BB/100...(48k hands)
1/2 FL SH =..........2.40 BB/100...(18k hands)
2/4 FL SH =..........1.82 BB/100...(16k hands)
3/6 FL SH ............2.01 BB/100...(21k hands)

Multiplicators:
silverstar (1,200 VPP/month) = ................. x 1,5
goldstar (3,000 VPP/month) = ................... x 2
platinumstar (7,500 VPP/month) = .......... x 2,5
super nova (100,000 VPP/year) = ............. x 3,5
super nova elite (1 mil VPP/year) = ............x 5

per $ tourney-fee you get 5 VPP

If you can add informations, post in this thread and i edit the entry post.

Best regards,
TribunCaesar


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I don't fully understand.

If I play NL25FR i get 12VPP every 100 hands? What about NL10?


CoreySteel
Joined: 25.10.2006

I played 4106 hands on FL 0.25/0.50 SH and got only 88 points (including some tournaments). So let's say I collected 80 points.

That means only 2 VPP/100 hands.

On 0.5/1.0 I'd get ......20-23.......VPP/100?

Something not right here...


CoreySteel
Joined: 25.10.2006

Again...
Today I played 800 hands and I got 12 points. 1.5VPP/100 hands...

Am I doing my calculation wrong?

I will be looking onto rake tomorrow, to see if I really earn only 12 VPP in 100 hands.. :)


That could be correct. I heart as well that you get only very few points on the micros at PokerStars.


CoreySteel
Joined: 25.10.2006

Well, it's true.

You get 1VPP when rake reach 0.4$ that means that pot has to be 8$ big. And this indeed happens every 1 or 2 times in 100 hands :rolleyes:

Guess I'll have to jump on 0.5/1.00 soon


I played 11500 hands on NL25 SH and have 1650fpp's
this is, however, a short amount of shortstacking NL100 (500hands) so lets say 1500fpp's
this meands 1500/11500 fpp's/hands which is 13fpp's/100hands so a little bit more than OP suggests :)
I'll see what happens on 50NL SH when I played 10k hands there!


CoreySteel
Joined: 25.10.2006

Well you've played 500 hands on NL500 and that could be worth more than 200 VPP, so you could collect like 1400 on NL25, which is I guess like 12VPP/100 ;)


Originally posted by CoreySteel
Well you've played 500 hands on NL500 and that could be worth more than 200 VPP, so you could collect like 1400 on NL25, which is I guess like 12VPP/100 ;)
NL100, not NL500


CoreySteel
Joined: 25.10.2006

It was just a typing mistake, calculation is correct ;)


opal99
Joined: 05.02.2008

Originally posted by TribunCaesar
RAKE:
1/2 FL SH =......2,40BB/100...(18k Hands)
2/4 FL SH =......1,82BB/100...(16k Hands)

2/4 FL SH = 1.98BB/100 (25k hands)
3/6 FL SH = 2.01BB/100 (21.5k hands)


Yoghi
Joined: 10.09.2007

2/4 FL SH = 2.01BB/100 (22k hands)


jasty2k
Joined: 01.05.2008

I don't really understand for rakeback on tourney.

Let's say I play DON turbo of 20.8$ : 0.8$ rake per game and 4FFP per game.

If I play 1625 DON per month, I will make 1300$ rake and get 6500FFP
As I will probably be goldstar I will get 100% more FFP so 13000FFP.

I look in the store : 50$ for 5000FFP so my 13.000FFP worth 130$
That's just 10% RB, isn't it a bit low ?


opal99
Joined: 05.02.2008

Originally posted by jasty2k
I look in the store : 50$ for 5000FFP so my 13.000FFP worth 130$
That's just 10% RB, isn't it a bit low ?

Yes, you're right: it's low, but it depends on your VIP level; e.g. Platinum player gets ~25% rakeback on 2/4 - 5/10 FL SH and 35% as Supernova. It's not easy for only-tourney players to get decent rakeback on Stars - that's fact...


Yoghi
Joined: 10.09.2007

And the $50 for 5000FPP is a bad bonus aswell, you can get ~$0.016 on some things, and not 0.01 like you get here.


I've got 7 FFP's but I still haven't got any pokerstrategy points.


How do you see where you get the rakeback on Pokerstars?

I'm only playing $3 + $0.40 and NL$0.02/$0.05

Any advice apprieciated


opal99
Joined: 05.02.2008

Originally posted by Screwloose
How do you see where you get the rakeback on Pokerstars?

I'm only playing $3 + $0.40 and NL$0.02/$0.05

Any advice apprieciated

Hi Screwloose;

there's no direct rakeback on PokerStars (like on FullTilt), but you can redeem you FPPs for cash bonuses: PokerStars VIP Store. The lowest of them are not so much interesting, because you get only $0.01/FPP, so it's better to save them for a while and then spend them on Platinum or Supernova offers (it's $0.013/$0.016 for them).


Ta... will have to read up abit more.

Still learning so hopefully I wont lose my BR quickly.


Grimzor
Joined: 28.03.2008

Will do more testing, but at first sight stud hi/lo 1/2$ gives ~38VPPs per 100 hands.