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NL20 KK 3bet pot deep vs turn c/r

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jozata
Joined: 30.07.2008

Cassava Poker $0.10/$0.20 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 1760121
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CO: $40.80
BTN: $20.00
SB: $61.45
Hero (BB): $47.35
UTG: $25.09

Pre Flop: ($0.30) Hero is BB with K :club: K :heart:
1 fold, CO calls $0.20, 1 fold, SB raises to $0.40, Hero raises to $2, 1 fold, SB calls $1.60

Flop: ($4.20) T :spade: 5 :spade: 2 :spade: (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2.60, SB calls $2.60

Turn: ($9.40) J :club: (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $6.40, SB raises to $12.80, Hero folds

VPIP/PFR/AF/F3b/CC-3b/WTSD/Hands
41/27/1,78/18/50(8)/25/279
Villain is pretty good, giving me a hard time even when he is OOP.
If I have to be honest he has been running over me for several sessions.
I bet turn for value. The problem with his c/r is that if I call it I'll have less than a pot-sized bet left. I believe he is trying to set me up for a river shove, to which I wont be able to fold.
Getting it in on the turn this deep seems a bit overplayed.
Is the fold ok?


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awishformore
Joined: 16.06.2007

I would say 100% yes. He almost always has the flush here. He might sometimes have two-pair JT or sets. Worst case he only has a good flush draw with a pair imho, so you're always far behind or just very slightly ahead.


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maheepsangari
Joined: 08.06.2010

Should there be a 2nd barrell in the first place? How about a check behind on the turn and call a 1/2 sized river bet if another :spade: doesn't fall?


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jozata
Joined: 30.07.2008

If I had the K :spade: I most probably would have checked behind the turn.
But without a spade I think that betting turn is better.
Depending on the river I migh even make a small value bet.


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maheepsangari
Joined: 08.06.2010

Most of the times he's gonna call the flop with a :spade: and he won't fold to the turn bet anyway. Else he called the flop with a TPGK kind of hand which will fold to the turn bet anyway.

So by checking the turn we lose less if he has a FD and hits the river, we induce a bluff from TPGK hands on the river.

If I had a K :spade: then I'd go ahead and bet the turn definitely. If he has a flush on the flop then I don't see why he would want to slowplay it on the flop.


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maheepsangari
Joined: 08.06.2010

Sorry double post.


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veriz
Joined: 20.07.2008

Hello jozata,

I like your play here and unfortunately we can't really continue, especially when his range will contain a lot of those hands which could be like TT/JJ. Doesn't seem to be an aggressive player either. Only hope we can see on the turn is A:sJx.

Oh and especially when being deep.

Best Regards.


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