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NL10 A9s flushdraw 13/05

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allen82082
Joined: 08.06.2011

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[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;SB$10.3:30/23/17/-/0/75/-/-;Hero$4.23:///////;[/tg]
0.05/0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy.com Elephant 0.106 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is CO with A♥, 9♥
5 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, BU folds, SB calls $0.25, BB folds.

Flop: ($0.70) 6♥, 4♥, 2♠ (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.4, SB raises to $1.20, Hero calls $0.80.

Turn: ($3.10) 4♣ (2 players)
SB bets $1.1, Hero folds, SB gets uncalled bet back.

Final Pot: $3.10

1、flop Cbet is right?
2、When BB raise me can i call him?
About the question 2 :My thinking is this: i should call 0.8, i need win 0.8*4=3.6,turn is 3.1,i can win the more 0.5 easily by bet 1/3 pot on the turn. And i am in position,BB obviously has a strong hand he will pay me when i hit the flush draw.


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Gerv
Joined: 07.05.2008

Hey,

He does not have 53 so why do you want to call? You have a monsterdraw so we need to bet/shove the Flop! We do not want to see a blank on the Turn, reducing our equity and let him walk away with the money

Calling is pretty bad if you hit as well as he can simply shut down on the obvious draw (Flush) that can hit on the Turn

Best regards,
Gerv


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allen82082
Joined: 08.06.2011

You have a monsterdraw so we need to bet/shove the Flop!

?( ?(
we just have a flushdraw,not a monsterdraw.


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Gerv
Joined: 07.05.2008

Originally posted by allen82082

You have a monsterdraw so we need to bet/shove the Flop!

?( ?(
we just have a flushdraw,not a monsterdraw.

No mostly we have a monsterdraw here as either a 9 or A is a clean out.

Or look at it the other way:
Bet/fold = Pretty bad , we have so much equity

Bet/call (What you did) = If we hit a Flush , we are happy but if our opponent does NOT have a flush as well, he is NOT going to pay us

If we miss, we are cutting our equity in half which kills our playability

so Bet/shove is the best play

Best regards,
Gerv


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allen82082
Joined: 08.06.2011

If we bet shove 3.93/3.93+3.93+0.7=46%
Now,we have two situation:
1.zh.pokerstrategy.com
牌面:: 6h4h2s
赢率 胜 和
MP2 74.92% 74.47% 0.45% { 66, 44, 22 }
MP3 25.08% 24.62% 0.45% { Ah9h }

2.
牌面:: 6♥4♥2♠
           赢率       胜       和
MP2    58.32%  57.98%   0.34% { 99-66, 44, 22 }
MP3    41.68%  41.34%   0.34% { Ah9h }

Two of those tell me bet shove is -EV.In fact i lean to NO.1,if he has midding overpairs,i think he will call since we bet preflop.


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Gerv
Joined: 07.05.2008

Originally posted by allen82082
If we bet shove 3.93/3.93+3.93+0.7=46%
Now,we have two situation:
1.zh.pokerstrategy.com
牌面:: 6h4h2s
赢率 胜 和
MP2 74.92% 74.47% 0.45% { 66, 44, 22 }
MP3 25.08% 24.62% 0.45% { Ah9h }

2.
牌面:: 6♥4♥2♠
           赢率       胜       和
MP2    58.32%  57.98%   0.34% { 99-66, 44, 22 }
MP3    41.68%  41.34%   0.34% { Ah9h }

Two of those tell me bet shove is -EV.In fact i lean to NO.1,if he has midding overpairs,i think he will call since we bet preflop.

Yeah if he only has 66,44,22 then it is pretty bad to shove then calling would be better. But he can have a worse flushdraws+Overcards and so on so your equity is definitely better than illustrated, trust me if you start bet/folding these monster hands then just do not openraise them because you lose so much money here :f_mad:

Your 46% caluculation is wrong because we still need to give ourselves some FEQ% in case he check/raise bluffs. I do not want to get too advanced as it will be mostly confusing you but you get money from letting him fold & you get money based on pot equity

- Gerv


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