nl5 jj

Joined: 29.12.2010

30.05.2012, 13:29 0

Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
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BTN: $1.68 - VPIP: 0, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 1
SB: $3.00 - VPIP: 28, PFR: 16, 3B: 3, AF: 2.3, Hands: 244
Hero (BB): $5.00 - VPIP: 15, PFR: 11, 3B: 4, AF: 2.2, Hands: 27908
UTG: $1.96 - VPIP: 0, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 4
UTG+1: $8.34 - VPIP: 25, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 4
MP1: $18.48 - VPIP: 12, PFR: 6, 3B: 0, AF: 3.0, Hands: 233
MP2: $3.39 - VPIP: 100, PFR: 50, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 2
CO: $11.16 - VPIP: 0, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 12

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BB with J♠ J♥
3 folds, MP2 raises to $0.15, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.32) 7♣ 9♦ 3♠ (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets $0.30, Hero raises to $1, MP2 folds

ok to play it this way? he probably missed the flop and i thought i would get more value from him when he Cbets and folds to raise..

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_Anonymous_

30.05.2012, 14:39 0

Hi,

c/r flop for value is fine. I would prefer 3-betting myself pf to get more money in the pot with likely better hand

best regards,

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xenomorphic

Joined: 29.12.2010

Posts: 3,381

30.05.2012, 15:36 0

Originally posted by Kaitz20
Hi,

c/r flop for value is fine. I would prefer 3-betting myself pf to get more money in the pot with likely better hand

best regards,

aside from being OOP i don't understand why 3betting pre is good.. im sure it's just turning it into a bluff since we don't really want a call. if we get a call then we are probably 50% at best if up against AK/AQ, but i only see AK, QQ and maaaybe TT calling a 3bet there. other than that then we will either get folds from anything less or 4bet with hands like AA/KK that didn't try to trap.

is the point of the 3bet to take the pot down preflop? i normally just play JJ for set value vs a raise..

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_Anonymous_

31.05.2012, 11:42 0

Originally posted by DrDunne

Originally posted by Kaitz20
Hi,

c/r flop for value is fine. I would prefer 3-betting myself pf to get more money in the pot with likely better hand

best regards,

aside from being OOP i don't understand why 3betting pre is good.. im sure it's just turning it into a bluff since we don't really want a call. if we get a call then we are probably 50% at best if up against AK/AQ, but i only see AK, QQ and maaaybe TT calling a 3bet there. other than that then we will either get folds from anything less or 4bet with hands like AA/KK that didn't try to trap.

is the point of the 3bet to take the pot down preflop? i normally just play JJ for set value vs a raise..

trust me, 100/50 player (although only with 2 hands) would call with worse hands, than JJ- I think you see a lot of suited cards, most broadway hands and if he is maniac he would get all-in with worse hands.
calling JJ for set value is not the best play, since you can extract a lot more value if you put more money in likely the best hand.
And even if he folds this time, you can 3-bet again if you have aces and he would then likely get all-in or at least call a lot lighter (if you were just called pf and played passively, then good players know your 3-bet range is very tight and they would fold all the worst hands)

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