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Avataren
Joined: 28.04.2010

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4 4
2 folds, CO raises, BTN 3-bets, SB folds, Hero calls, CO calls

Flop: (9.4 SB) Q 9 4 (3 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, BTN calls, Hero raises, CO calls, BTN calls

Turn: (7.3 BB) 9 (3 players)
Hero bets, CO calls

River: (9.3 BB) Q (3 players)
Hero bets, CO calls

Results: 11.3 BB pot (0.4 BB rake)
Final Board: Q 9 4 9 Q

what i want to know is my preflop call with 44 in BB to a raise and 3b .. I calculated a little on it and i remember something dats told at the coaching today. you need 5:1 to call for set value right ? wasn't it 5:1 ? I had a look at it in HEM and it unfortunately said 3.20:1 .. So mathematically its bad if HEM is right. But then i am looking at it and thinking is it really that bad considering these opponents..

CO: 40/19/5.3/67hands
BTN: 48/11/8.2/274hands (had a 2,01BB stack)

I know their raising and 3b range is tight. but if i could have the set id at least almost 100% get full 3 streets including raises if they have overpairs or hands like broadway cards and they hit an ace or king , that shorty is certainly going all in no matter what. what you think ?


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firsttsunami
Joined: 23.01.2006

I don't actually know how the correct odds have to be to coldcall but i can tell you that highstakes player also use to coldcall pocketpairs, especially with 2 semigood players around so i don't mind coldcalling 44 but i don't mind folding either. It's close but i'm excited about another suggestions how they deal with this situation. i do sometimes coldcall, i do sometimes fold. It's not a big difference. I just got the information that Button was almost all in so i'd rather fold because he protects the pot and you don't have the regular implied odds if he'd have an "entire" stack. As played it's pretty standard to bet the River again because he won't have Qx that often. He's more likely to have AT KJ AJ AK and he's gonna pay off those hands against all your busted straight- and flushdraws.


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