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nemiren
Joined: 28.09.2009

there was one MP open limper and i raised from SB.

flop: Q,Q,5. i bet he called.

turn: K how would you play? c/f,b/f? i thought if i bet i have an easy fold..


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Avataren
Joined: 28.04.2010

id bet thats obvious. the question is how many hands can he float with .. about every single hand he would ever want to play. so imo a king is not so likely. nor is a queen he would raise a queen and any pair above 5 pre. so all except 22 - 33 - 44 perhaps is out of the question. Id say you bet and if he raises yeah he has either a queen or king.

but i would never give up here already you say c/f no no thats a no. what i would do is bet and if he raises. yeah we could reluctanly fold. but with my normal style of not being able to fold this hand i check call river. basically any card. but yeah ... nemiren ive examined all the hands i have on you and you play like a 20/13 type of style. Thats awfully very much too tight for 6max 10/20c

btw. sorry i didn't reply to you on the table earlier today but ive excluded myself from chatting on stars due to tilt rage problems


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nemiren
Joined: 28.09.2009

thanks for stats! i dont have a program so thats interesting. yeah i do a lot of mistakes..


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Avataren
Joined: 28.04.2010

you defintely should get a program :) yeah it iseems you have a tight tight hand range. Like earlier you and me were in the blinds. you raised. i had 53o and i called .. the board came 9Jx or something. you bet i raised and you folded. if i hadn't told you this i would have abused it so hard against you its not even funny :)


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nemiren
Joined: 28.09.2009

hahaha,thats a good one! you ***** piece of * u because you **** i am just kidding man :)

the only right thing to do! abuse weaknesses!


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Avataren
Joined: 28.04.2010

yep. I think you need to change your game quite a bit.. why dont you go on gmail , and write to me and ill help you a bit :)


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Dawnfall26
Joined: 30.07.2008

Hi!

c/f is clearly wrong.He does have a ton of worse hands in this spot,many bluffs but even worse made hands like 5x and you just dont want to fold right away.

Question whether to bet or c/c is not so easy however and I dont really mind c/c that much vs bad oponent.Thing is I dont see 2 streets of value vs many hands on this turncard (that what betting the turn means,you want 2bets),but 5x is not super likely in his preflop MP2 limping range so there are only pockets and Ax(which are super likely to fold this turn).On the other hand there are a ton of connectors or just whatever kindda cards that peeled this very peelable flop which you dont want him to fold(like 89,T9,...).When he checks behind you have super easy river vbet and can actually expect very light calldowns due to you looking very weak.

Another thing is it saves you from ugly spot when you get raised on the turn and no option looks super good for you. Folding seems weak as K can easily be a scarcard and he will bluff but calling down seems expecive due to the fact the line looks really strong.Not saying betting is bad but imo is not optimal play here vs unknown.


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