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Poker Stars, $1.32 Buy-in (50/100 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

MP2: 1,845 (18.5 bb)
MP3: 1,921 (19.2 bb) ---fish
CO: 1,889 (18.9 bb)
BTN: 1,755 (17.6 bb)
SB: 1,318 (13.2 bb)
BB: 1,880 (18.8 bb) --- fish
UTG+2: 1,502 (15 bb)
Hero (MP1): 1,390 (13.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J A
UTG+2 folds, Hero raises to 225, MP2 folds, MP3 calls 225, 3 folds, BB calls 125

Flop: (725) 3 T 7 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, MP3 bets 300, BB calls 300, Hero folds

Just push pre?

Thanks.


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mktpppr
Joined: 18.07.2010

hi guys,
its a Nash shove so its profitable

but i would've played it same as you, pre and post

lets see what others say, concensus will probably be shove pre


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akrammon
Joined: 17.05.2009

Originally posted by RobertAdams
hi guys,
its a Nash shove so its profitable

but i would've played it same as you, pre and post

lets see what others say, concensus will probably be shove pre

Be careful! That is very untrue! If you need further explanation about what a "Nash equilibrium" is, then ask and I will give it to you, or point you to the correct link :)

Back to the hand, openpushing here is very likely going to be +EV, but I think you are being a bit results oriented here. Just jamming for this many big blinds is a bit of an overplay in my opinion.

I like your raise. About postflop - depending on your opponents you probably played it well, you can consider making a tiny cbet and give up to any action if the villains look straightforward. What I mean by that is that if they aren't crazy fishes then they won't look you up with overcards or air, and this board is pretty dry. I'd usually make a cbet if we had position and they checked to us.
All this said, being sandwiched between fishes is never good, so I prefer the way you did it. Better be careful considering how much a cbet costs us.

Regards,
akrammon


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mktpppr
Joined: 18.07.2010

hi akrammon,
yes please post further explanation about Nash or post link, thx

also thx for evals on my other hands


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akrammon
Joined: 17.05.2009

Originally posted by RobertAdams
hi akrammon,
yes please post further explanation about Nash or post link, thx

also thx for evals on my other hands

No problems, mate.

Nash equilibrium is the best strategy only against the best strategy. Now this might sound a bit confusing at first, but what it basically is, is a balance point (an equilibrium) what everyone needs to play in order to get the best results if everyone is playing Nash and only then.

So, if there are 2 players involved, then it is the best strategy if we take into consideration the other persons strategy, who will also play the best strategy as he also takes into consideration our strategy.

If one player calls an all-in significantly looser than his Nash range then our Nash push will become -EV very quickly. We always have to adapt to our opponents. Using a Nash range as a starting point is a good idea because it is easy to get from calculators, but you have to be aware that this ranges can be tightened on several occasions and loosened on even more occasions.

It is not the same as an "unexploitable" shove, where your shove will be +EV regardless of what your opponent calls you with (any pocket pair for 10bbs BvB for example).

Also note that while I said that it's the "best strategy" against the best strategy, it doesn't necessarily mean that it's good. What I mean by that is that if everyone was playing Nash in poker then noone would be winning anything - all decisions would sum up to 0 in EV and everyone would lose to rake. Still, if everyone would be playing Nash then the best (the only) way for minimizing our losses would be playing Nash, because with every other strategy we would be losing.

Cheers, if you have any other questions or I just wasnt clear on something then shoot, I'm happy to answer.

Also, Nash's equilibrium has a million uses beside poker, so you're interested: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nash_equilibrium


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