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PLO25 vs maniac

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wnbMG
Joined: 10.04.2011

he was 90/70/57% over 17 hands
he didnt faced 4bet yet IMO
should i fold to 3bet or 5bet or get it in?

Hero (CO): $26.68 (106.7 bb)
BTN: $71.94 (287.8 bb)
SB: $25 (100 bb)
BB: $27.13 (108.5 bb)
MP: $28.19 (112.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K K Q 4
MP folds, Hero raises to $0.85, BTN raises to $2.25, 2 folds, Hero raises to $7.10, BTN raises to $21.65, Hero raises to $26.68 and is all-in, BTN calls $5.03

Flop: ($53.71) 3 T 7 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: ($53.71) 7 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($53.71) T (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results:

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$53.71 pot ($2.00 rake)
Final Board: 3 T 7 7 T
Hero showed K K Q 4 and lost (-$26.68 net)
BTN showed 6 A Q A and won $51.71 ($25.03 net)


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I think you need to get it in for information at least, since you're behind only vs AAxx and ahead of the rest of his range. If he 3bets 57% of the time he probably goes broke quite loose. Although 17 hands it not that big of a sample :|.


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Ribbo
Joined: 25.06.2010

Against a random 4 cards you're 60/40 ahead.

Kd Kh Qs 4c 59.46%
**** 40.54%

Against the top 50% of his range where he is folding garbage like 2269 preflop I think you're at best flipping a coin.

Given you can't improve on the flop often enough to stack off and the guy has position on you a fold to a 3 bet might be best here. Even so I am probably 4 betting and then stacking off on the flop.


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wnbMG
Joined: 10.04.2011

should i fold to his 5bet?


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Ribbo
Joined: 25.06.2010

Originally posted by wnbMG
should i fold to his 5bet?

Would certainly be a smart thing to do if you think his range is only AA at that point. Being unsuited and having a useless 4 in your hand really hurts you.

Kd Kh Qs 4c 25.43%
AA** 74.57%


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Navzar52
Joined: 26.12.2011

I call 3 bet and if i dont get nuts on the flop i fold!


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provoman
Joined: 22.06.2010

Maybe is good line (to hold pot low vs agresive player or to be after him!!!) realy to pay him 3-bet and donk flop for value75-80% form pot. If ne 3 bet again just fold.

Sit out from table, you r not in good posisin.


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JonikoP
Joined: 15.05.2010

KKQ4 no suit is a very marginal hand and you have a small sample on him. I would fold to the 3-bet and it's actually a marginal open against a button that is that loose.

You should definitely move table/seat as this guy is going to make you life hell.


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

An alternative play versus a super-aggressive opponent with these stack sizes and that hand is to limp and call the raise that is surely coming. You can probably set-mine profitably that way, especialy if one of the blinds come along.

I don't see the point in calling a (surely upcoming) 3-bet. The stacks are too small (or too big) for that.

I certainly don't see the point in getting it in preflop. Even if you happen to be a tiny favourite, the rake will take that edge off your equity almost completely. What is there to say that this guy loves to give money away? Plenty of people love to 3-bet. Not many loves to shove it with complete trash.

Note, I don't say generally to limp with KKQX. It's just that if the read on the guy to the left is "maniac", then one only gets into this kind of trouble unless one modifies the opening range.

/Johan = :f_confused:


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