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FullTiltPoker Game #6706726620: MSOP Event #9 (49643864), Table 138 - 40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 16:37:37 ET - 2008/06/05
Seat 1: jojoblack (12,979)
Seat 2: diamondyble (11,645)
Seat 3: Cpt Sharkinho (12,765)
Seat 4: CatchGamer (8,431)
Seat 5: villines31 (6,830)
Seat 6: SwordfishDiamon (3,519)
CatchGamer posts the small blind of 40
villines31 posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #3
HOLE CARDS
Dealt to CatchGamer [Js Kh]
SwordfishDiamon folds
jojoblack folds
diamondyble folds
Cpt Sharkinho raises to 240
CatchGamer calls 200
villines31 folds
FLOP [2c Kd 9d]
CatchGamer has 15 seconds left to act
CatchGamer bets 415
Cpt Sharkinho has 15 seconds left to act
Cpt Sharkinho raises to 1,400
CatchGamer calls 985
TURN [2c Kd 9d] [As]
CatchGamer checks
Cpt Sharkinho bets 2,200
CatchGamer has 15 seconds left to act
CatchGamer calls 2,200
RIVER [2c Kd 9d As] [Tc]
CatchGamer has 15 seconds left to act
CatchGamer bets 4,591, and is all in
Cpt Sharkinho has 15 seconds left to act
jojoblack has been disconnected
Cpt Sharkinho has requested TIME
Cpt Sharkinho calls 4,591
SHOW DOWN
CatchGamer shows [Js Kh] a pair of Kings
Cpt Sharkinho shows [Qh Kc] a pair of Kings
Cpt Sharkinho wins the pot (16,942) with a pair of Kings
CatchGamer stands up
SUMMARY
Total pot 16,942 | Rake 0
Board: [2c Kd 9d As Tc]
Seat 1: jojoblack didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: diamondyble didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: Cpt Sharkinho (button) showed [Qh Kc] and won (16,942) with a pair of Kings
Seat 4: CatchGamer (small blind) showed [Js Kh] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 5: villines31 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: SwordfishDiamon didn't bet (folded)

What did I do wrong with my bluff?
I had not played a hand in 15 minutes!


2 replies

marginal hand + OOP = trouble.

Fold preflop, because you're OOP, you'll only get in trouble in this spot. If you wanna play hands, play from MP3-CO-BU with marginal hands, it'll be more profitable.

why the bluff didn't work:

1. you're oop, harder to bluff oop
2. your line doesn't make any sense (bet/call/check/call/bet) doesn't really say "hey, I paired that ace, so I check-called the turn!")
3. he's kinda committed to call on the river. He can still fold, but the price is right, c/r or push on the turn would've been A LOT better.
4. You're playing 15$ tourneys, don't expect your opponents to be good enough for making herofolds.

btw:

dont donk the flop, it's pointless
dont c/c the turn, you're never ahead here
dont bluff postoak, it's pointless

I had not played a hand in 15 minutes!

Think about it. It's not really important, but it's funny you mention it. If you get a handhistory, which shows 2 hands, played directly after eachother. Hero makes exactly the same betting pattern twice. You don't get to see the hole cards. You think he's more often bluffing the first time, or the second time?

Ofcourse the answer is, the first time. He'd be crazy if he repeats the pattern of the previous hand, in which the opponent folded, with a sheer bluff. The odds of him picking up cards, THEN getting a good spot to bluff are smaller then the other way around i'd guess.

If you'd shown down some monsters in the past 15 minutes, you'd surely have way more FE too. Being tight means in no way that you aren't bluffing. That's why lag-style is so darn profitable. Because everyone thinks they're bluffing all the time.


chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007
Elite Grinder

Originally posted by helemaalnicks
marginal hand + OOP = trouble.

Fold preflop, because you're OOP, you'll only get in trouble in this spot. If you wanna play hands, play from MP3-CO-BU with marginal hands, it'll be more profitable.

why the bluff didn't work:

1. you're oop, harder to bluff oop
2. your line doesn't make any sense (bet/call/check/call/bet) doesn't really say "hey, I paired that ace, so I check-called the turn!")
3. he's kinda committed to call on the river. He can still fold, but the price is right, c/r or push on the turn would've been A LOT better.
4. You're playing 15$ tourneys, don't expect your opponents to be good enough for making herofolds.

btw:

dont donk the flop, it's pointless
dont c/c the turn, you're never ahead here
dont bluff postoak, it's pointless

I had not played a hand in 15 minutes!

Think about it. It's not really important, but it's funny you mention it. If you get a handhistory, which shows 2 hands, played directly after eachother. Hero makes exactly the same betting pattern twice. You don't get to see the hole cards. You think he's more often bluffing the first time, or the second time?

Ofcourse the answer is, the first time. He'd be crazy if he repeats the pattern of the previous hand, in which the opponent folded, with a sheer bluff. The odds of him picking up cards, THEN getting a good spot to bluff are smaller then the other way around i'd guess.

If you'd shown down some monsters in the past 15 minutes, you'd surely have way more FE too. Being tight means in no way that you aren't bluffing. That's why lag-style is so darn profitable. Because everyone thinks they're bluffing all the time.

#2, i would 3bet this preflop, but this is a question of style. never call preflop though


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