QQ vs Tag

Joined: 29.04.2007

07.06.2008, 22:07 0

Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/pfr/af/wts/ats/foldbb/w$sd;Hero$205.55:///////;BB$256:///////;[/tg]
1/2 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q♥, Q♦
Hero raises to $7.00, 4 folds, BB calls $5.00.

Flop: ($15.00) J♠, K♦, T♦ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $9, BB raises to $27.00, Hero calls $18.00.

Turn: ($69.00) 4♠ (2 players)
BB bets $54, Hero calls $54.00.

River: ($177.00) 4♥ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $117.55 (All-In).

Final Pot: $294.55

No history. Against aggressive Tag.

11 replies

_Anonymous_

07.06.2008, 22:18 0

I don't understand that shove

thought process ? (i don't think he c/r a K on the flop so are you really trying to make him fold a straight ?)

Sebra

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07.06.2008, 23:46 0

I don't bet this flop. We get c/r a ton, by worse and by better hands, we don't want to build a big pot with a weak draw and we might induce action from nothing hands (suited cons, small pairs) by checking which will fold if we bet.

I don't like the river either. He will never fold a K given potodds and how the hand went down and you beat missed flush/straight draws anyway. It would be a sick thin value-bet vs. QJ etc. and I think it's too thin.

chenny8888

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08.06.2008, 05:48 0

Originally posted by Sebra
I don't bet this flop. We get c/r a ton, by worse and by better hands, we don't want to build a big pot with a weak draw and we might induce action from nothing hands (suited cons, small pairs) by checking which will fold if we bet.

I don't like the river either. He will never fold a K given potodds and how the hand went down and you beat missed flush/straight draws anyway. It would be a sick thin value-bet vs. QJ etc. and I think it's too thin.

#2.

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TribunCaesar

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10.06.2008, 17:25 0

Actually i had the same thoughts concerning th river.
Just wanted to prove your hand evaluation skills. ♦

Agiz19

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11.06.2008, 15:37 0

lol:D

Cojack123

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11.06.2008, 22:20 0

Hi tribun

i fold the flop as played because you will not get much value and it is unlikly that he raises a flushdraw at this board.

chenny8888

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12.06.2008, 04:56 0

Originally posted by Cojack123
Hi tribun

i fold the flop as played because you will not get much value and it is unlikly that he raises a flushdraw at this board.

in position with a bazillion outs? :(.

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Cojack123

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12.06.2008, 13:05 0

jeah because my outs are 4 cards straight and 4 card ♦ flush

I dont see him raising me light in this spot
2. pair, KQ, AT,

if you think he reraises more than call.

chenny8888

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12.06.2008, 13:16 0

Originally posted by Cojack123
jeah because my outs are 4 cards straight and 4 card ♦ flush

I dont see him raising me light in this spot
2. pair, KQ, AT,

if you think he reraises more than call.

so? implied odds aside, we almost have the pot odds for a call.

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Cojack123

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12.06.2008, 14:00 0

ok you are right then i call 1 bet and fold turn

Thorsten77

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12.06.2008, 18:04 0

I'd also check behind the flop and call any turn. As played, I think the river is spew.

[Closed] QQ vs Tag