nl100 zoom A6s oop, limped pot

Since it's limped, I would pot-bet flop and also bet close to pot on the turn on this board.

On the river my line would be to bet ~half pot / fold to a raise.

I would prefer to raise pre and just play with CO. If called we will take down most flops.

Otherwise think its fold pre

folding pre is just horrible. There's so much EV lost in this.
I don't isolate in those cases because I only isolate with strong hand in the blinds as it's hard to play vs fish OOP in my experience.
I would pot the flop, pot the turn and check/decide river,

Originally posted by z1pz0r
folding pre is just horrible. There's so much EV lost in this.
I don't isolate in those cases because I only isolate with strong hand in the blinds as it's hard to play vs fish OOP in my experience.
I would pot the flop, pot the turn and check/decide river,

I agree. But on riv, how do you decide? Like if BB pots it and CO calls I guess we can fold? Since sets/better 2pairs become likely.

But I feel most Ax (not 2pair) just check/b this riv so we might miss value by not betting. Not sure. Vs 2 players it's definitely tougher...

Yeah OK I dont zoom I suppose CO would of instafolded most his junk?

Still dont like completing though dont we often face a raise from BB and if not we have to play three way OOP

As played Im poting flop and turn and check call river as think sets would of raised flop or turn here.

Raise preflop in almost all circumstances.

The benefits are: pushing the BB out of the hand, value against the limper, building a bigger pot when you are the player who has the advantage postflop.

Flop is good, I don't think your hand is necessarily strong enough to pot there.

Turn, I think your hand is strong enough to pot. AQ is unlikely and sets and flushes often raise flop.

Betting river would be thin. Not in the sense that you are beat often, but in the sense that you are not getting called by worse often. If you put in 3 bets on a flush board you are representing a flush, so it seems very difficult to get called by a 1pr hand there.

Against the BB a river bet is bad, vs the limper it's probably good though. I think I'd bet like $10 -$14 to get a call from 1pair hands.

Thanks. I bet $13 and got called by CO's ATo.

I'm interested in pre. Seems like our particular hand will be hard to play, HU, oop vs unk limper. Can't do much on Axx (win small pot/lose bigger one), no wheel draw, not much playability. Only on clubs will we really feel comfortable pushing the action if villain doesnt fold on flop. I'd rather iso TJ or QT etc (similar hand strength but more playable).

Can you elaborate on why you would like to iso here, even vs unk? (Agree that getting HU is certainly worth something.)

Thx again.

You're welcome.

Originally posted by Tim64Seems like our particular hand will be hard to play, HU, oop vs unk limper. .

This is the crux. You are uncomfortable playing medium strength hands OOP. I don't think you should be. The opponent is a donkey, you can play your Ahi, your third pair sixes, your top pair Ace no kicker way better than you give yourself credit for.

Of course you will get into tricky situations. But if you play it well I am sure A6s will on average return more than 50% of the money that goes in preflop.

Just for the record, I will raise hands like T6s there preflop if the BB is nitty and the limper is unknown.

Originally posted by lnternet
Just for the record, I will raise hands like T6s there preflop if the BB is nitty and the limper is unknown.

Im raising super wide here to. I find that the fish generally flop but usually give me respect for my CB most the time.

Its definately profitable and limp pots are never worth winning anyways.

Originally posted by breena
limp pots are never worth winning anyways.

wat

Originally posted by z1pz0r

Originally posted by breena
limp pots are never worth winning anyways.

wat

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Its obviously more profitable to win a raised pot than a limped one is what I meant by that. :