[SH] nl50 possible turn bluff spot

Hello meepwn,

Even if you float the flop then this turn is one of the worst for you. You can never play back here cause raising wouldn't make sense nor floating. He could easily just ship the river and you ain't able to Call it down.

Best Regards.

dont float the flop

got it

cause raising wouldn't make sense

can you elaborate a little more? Did i mess up my ranges, or did I miss something big?

Originally posted by meepwn

dont float the flop

got it

cause raising wouldn't make sense

can you elaborate a little more? Did i mess up my ranges, or did I miss something big?

Depends a lot on the opponent here either to float or not, didn't say it's impossible. But as long you didn't mentioned anything reasonable it's going to be difficult for you whilst you rather little understanding what's the reason for floating here.

You can't raise the turn cause you would never-ever do that with flush, that's what I mean, ranges are correct or not, rather that depends against what opponent we are against.

You can't raise the turn cause you would never-ever do that with flush

Would protection not be an issue with a non-nut flush here, e.g. Tc9c, on the turn? Is keeping the opponent's range wide + not scaring him away more important?

Originally posted by Avatars91

You can't raise the turn cause you would never-ever do that with flush

Would protection not be an issue with a non-nut flush here, e.g. Tc9c, on the turn? Is keeping the opponent's range wide + not scaring him away more important?

Not really, from what worse you get called?

Would be a pitty seeing another club or a board-pairing card on the river. Whereas on the turn we probably get called by all sets, Acx combos and sometimes even weaker flushes.

Although calling instead of raising seems to have a lot of advantages as well. I am just really scared of a bad river card.

Originally posted by Avatars91
Would be a pitty seeing another club or a board-pairing card on the river. Whereas on the turn we probably get called by all sets, Acx combos and sometimes even weaker flushes.

Although calling instead of raising seems to have a lot of advantages as well. I am just really scared of a bad river card.

And I am asking you again, how many worse hands calling if you raising the turn? Even if a bad card comes which isn't like every 2nd card you just don't get called from worse on the turn, very capped range calls which goes mainly for implied odds.

I suppose that if the turn was not K♣ and was something like 9♣ instead, it wouldn't change much in the sense that our raise would still be called by a rather capped range and thus we should keep his range wide in order to be able to gain more value on the river?

Originally posted by Avatars91
I suppose that if the turn was not K♣ and was something like 9♣ instead, it wouldn't change much in the sense that our raise would still be called by a rather capped range and thus we should keep his range wide in order to be able to gain more value on the river?

How many worse hands calling us on the turn when we raising? You didn't answer my question. Doesn't matter what kind of ♣ comes.

How many worse hands calling us on the turn when we raising? You didn't answer my question.

Most likely all the sets for their implied odds and some Acx combo draws at best. So yeah, I guess raising is not the best play with a made flush on the turn in a 3Bet pot.

Originally posted by Avatars91

How many worse hands calling us on the turn when we raising? You didn't answer my question.

Most likely all the sets for their implied odds and some Acx combo draws at best. So yeah, I guess raising is not the best play with a made flush on the turn in a 3Bet pot.

There might be not that many sets even in his range. Nor of course A:c clearly doesn't get the implied odds for just 1card FD.