mp JJ AT4 loose guy, overall

Hi,

seems fine. I would played myself b/f 0.45$ flop to not give free cards and not to get pushed off by worse hands

best regards,

Originally posted by Kaitz20
Hi,

seems fine. I would played myself b/f 0.45$ flop to not give free cards and not to get pushed off by worse hands

best regards,

I though we can only bet for a)value b)bluff c)dead money
1)can a weaker hand call here? -no
2) can a stronger fold? -KK-QQ could, but even thats uncertain
3) Collect dead money.... Well, this should be it, isnt it? Or I miss something. It's just strange for me to bet to NOT get bluffed out of the pot.

If we bet and get called, it's a give up situation right? Pot is going to be ~1.85$, villain:1.68$

I would play exactly the same. Checking the flop is standard, we can`t get much value from worse. Also, we can pot-control and can expect a lot of bluffs by this LAG villain.

Originally posted by Imimba1

Originally posted by Kaitz20
Hi,

seems fine. I would played myself b/f 0.45$ flop to not give free cards and not to get pushed off by worse hands

best regards,

I though we can only bet for a)value b)bluff c)dead money
1)can a weaker hand call here? -no
2) can a stronger fold? -KK-QQ could, but even thats uncertain
3) Collect dead money.... Well, this should be it, isnt it? Or I miss something. It's just strange for me to bet to NOT get bluffed out of the pot.

If we bet and get called, it's a give up situation right? Pot is going to be ~1.85$, villain:1.68$

you´re betting these boards with air, also he would call with likely Tx, 4x to hit his two pair and see what you´re doing on the turn, also I don´t think it is unreasonable to think he would c/c there once his small pp-s.

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Yup, you should cbet that board anytime in a 3-bet pot. Otherwise you are very exploitable, as you give up every time you don't have a hand and bet only with hit. Bet/fold is nice line.

And about calling opponent's bets 2 streets.. Impossible. There could be anything, even weaker suited aces or any pp up to KK, so calling blindly here is spewwy.

Originally posted by Kaitz20
you´re betting these boards with air, also he would call with likely Tx, 4x to hit his two pair and see what you´re doing on the turn, also I don´t think it is unreasonable to think he would c/c there once his small pp-s.

If we bet even 50% and get called,the pot is going to be ~1.85$, villain:1.68$
I fear, that he could push with a weaker hand than ours later on, and we wont be able to call. He will have 2 streets where he could do that. We simply WILL NOT be able to fold this hand.

In short: what is our plan if he calls the flop?

Originally posted by Imimba1

Originally posted by Kaitz20
you´re betting these boards with air, also he would call with likely Tx, 4x to hit his two pair and see what you´re doing on the turn, also I don´t think it is unreasonable to think he would c/c there once his small pp-s.

If we bet even 50% and get called,the pot is going to be ~1.85$, villain:1.68$
I fear, that he could push with a weaker hand than ours later on, and we wont be able to call. He will have 2 streets where he could do that. We simply WILL NOT be able to fold this hand.

In short: what is our plan if he calls the flop?

give up unless I hit my J
- he would likely check down his Tx hands, sometimes bluff with KQ, but that is just too small part of his bluffrange that I should consider calling him on the river.
if I check that spot with JJ I would also need to balance out with Ax hands and since I generally don´t like give free cards to low pp-s that would only continue if they hit set, then I would rather continue my aggression on the flop

best regards,