nl25sh - misplaced bluff.

I agree that if we cbet, we have to barrel 2/3streets to get him off from hands like A7/KJ. River is really bad, cause I dont think he would ever fold Ax anymore.
Other reason not to barrel is our lack of equity (2outs), which decreases the EV of our move a lot.

i understand your reasoning for f/t barrels, however on river i think it is a mandatory give up. board is decently dry, and river does not change it much/if at all, and i cannot see too many hands that call 2 barrels and fold river now

Hello Farmarchist,

Check/Fold the flop, don't really like the CB at all there whilst you ain't gonna have much fold equity. Seems like just waste of money here.

Best Regards.

Originally posted by Farmarchist
I know you will all say: check/fold the flop. But how badly is this actually? We as PFR hit this flop a lot better. 3barrel = strong. + it's not like the A river is a good bluffcard for us.

Check/Fold the flop, don't really like the CB at all there whilst you ain't gonna have much fold equity. Seems like just waste of money here.

if i fire, i think i'm going for the weak line of fire once and give up. just to fold out a range of random suited connectors and better pockets

i don't think we can fold out a lot on the turn, if we go for it then yeah 3barrel spot but it just feels -EV.

Originally posted by Farmarchist

I know you will all say: check/fold the flop. But how badly is this actually? We as PFR hit this flop a lot better. 3barrel = strong. + it's not like the A river is a good bluffcard for us.

I think you are trying to find an excuse for betting here, while it's really an easy ch/f.

Originally posted by livethelife7

Originally posted by Farmarchist

I know you will all say: check/fold the flop. But how badly is this actually? We as PFR hit this flop a lot better. 3barrel = strong. + it's not like the A river is a good bluffcard for us.

I think you are trying to find an excuse for betting here, while it's really an easy ch/f.

I'm not :). Just want to hear how bad it is... Slightly -EV, close to 0 or realllyyyy bad..

Originally posted by livethelife7

Originally posted by Farmarchist

I know you will all say: check/fold the flop. But how badly is this actually? We as PFR hit this flop a lot better. 3barrel = strong. + it's not like the A river is a good bluffcard for us.

I think you are trying to find an excuse for betting here, while it's really an easy ch/f.

+1, doubt that I can say any better.