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Full Tilt Poker, NL Hold'em Tournament, $2 + $0.25 Tournament, 80/160 Blinds, 8 Players
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BB: 3,055
UTG: 1,665
UTG+1: 1,993
MP1: 4,045
MP2: 1,770
CO: 4,380
BTN: 2,728
Hero (SB): 2,630

Pre-Flop: (240) Q♣ A♦ dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG raises to 320, 4 folds, BTN calls 320, Hero ???

145 player tourney, about 55 left. Do I shove here? simply call? Whats the best move?


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xponentx
Joined: 11.02.2008

Looks like a clear-cut fold to me. There's a lot of hands that can beat you.


personally id just call ... youve got one caller already giving you some odds ... also you have a little already invested ... you're hand is decent ... if you dont hit check fold it

not that you should think like this at all but ... you're playing a large tournament ... and the blinds are 80/160 ... and already 90 people have gone out ... they arent playing very tightly


Well I would say it depends on the player you are against. If you saw him raising loose, then i would simply call and put a play on him on the flop if possible. But if hes a normal player, who knows something about the game (by saying normal i mean not a donk who raises hands like KJ UTG, you understand me), I just fold. ~16 BB is still pretty good stack and shoving here imo would seem to be not a good idea because some people tend to miniraise monsters from UTG and you can wait for way better spots to do this. Acctualy any raise from UTG indicates strenght. I guess this decision should be based on what you have seen from him during the tournament.

But here i would just fold preflop and wait for a better spot. Hopefully we can wait some expert answers because its an interesting situation :)


gggeorgio
Joined: 05.09.2007

To onecardtogo,

I don't think calling is a good idea.
-You're entering a minimum 3 way pot (probably 4 since the BB is getting great odds) in the worst position
-your hand doesn't do well in multiway pots (even if you hit a Q high flop against 3 unknown hands top pair top kicker isn't so great)
-your risking just under a tenth of your stack (a pretty large amount)

With all these things considered I'd fold the majority of the time. If UTG is raising like a maniac from any position, then I might think about pushing but not very often.


I'd fold, if they raised late n no one else entered the pot you could resteal, but not in a multiway pot


Tosh5457
Joined: 18.01.2008

If you knew that mini-raises came from the UTG meant weakness, and you knew the call range of the BTN was below I think you could push and try to steal the pot. I think calling oop isn't very good, maybe if you were on a late position you could call...


icegooner4 , min raises on higher buy-in tourneys tend to hint at big hands like As

but on this level you need chips at some time so would push it , BTN could be calling just because of position and its the UTG player you have to beat and you only have 4 hands to worry about


chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

Hi icegooner4, these spots really depend on any available reads, but lacking them, I would go for a reraise/call. This is because the minraise UTG really is usually a wide range of hands, against which we have both equity and fold equity.

Calling, and check/raise/shoving any hit is good too.


I would just push this, I don't really give utg a big hand after minraising here and I'm also not afraid of the coldcaller....so easy push for me.