27$ knockout - QQ

shove pre 3 bet looks very strong imo in that spot

i f i 3bet i go for 300 and get it in on any flop

yip I would have prob 3bet jammed him Pre looking at your stack sizes.

also

you checked flop after 3betting pre , bad move !!

u shoud have either jammed flop or fired a bet, but jam would be better coz ur stack size....

Originally posted by thesundancekid
yip I would have prob 3bet jammed him Pre looking at your stack sizes.

also

you checked flop after 3betting pre , bad move !!

u shoud have either jammed flop or fired a bet, but jam would be better coz ur stack size....

Why do you think cbet on this flop is good???
Do you think he will fold enough to have +EV cbet. I don`t think. If I cbet, I should fold if he push.
Such that everyone cbets, when have made 3bet preflop, don`t mean, that this is the right play in every spot.

Yes, shove pre flop is better.

if i was villian, i would fire a turn bet at you every time bcoz u checked flop, which he did and u folded.

imo , 3betting then checking flop is passive , ofc you cant do it always but in a HU pot mostly yes you should, you are also getting zero info by checking flop..

but on a board like that i wouldnt be to scared of the ace or flush and i would have fired flop bet after my pre 3bet, he either going fold, call or RR you, and u can always give up l8r street but u gotta try and take pot 1st as you are being the aggressor!!!.....

if i was villian, i would fire a turn bet at you every time bcoz u checked flop, which he did and u folded.

imo , 3betting then checking flop is passive , ofc you cant do it always but in a HU pot mostly yes you should, you are also getting zero info by checking flop..

but on a board like that i wouldnt be to scared of the ace or flush and i would have fired flop bet after my pre 3bet, he either going fold, call or RR you, and u can always give up l8r street but u gotta try and take pot 1st as you are being the aggressor!!!.....

He might check/push with Ax(we don`t know how wide is his range), flush draws(KhQh, Th9h, if he have these hands in his range), sometimes he can check/push with QJs,KJs,JTs, which is very bad for me.
He don`t have a lot of hands which can turn in bluff after my check.
Most of the opponents will check down with 99,TT,Jx.

Hi all,

In this hand I will learn you some pokers. Here we have QQ, a very strong value hand, against an unknown in a 27$ tournament. He's probably not the best poker player, so a reraise is better than a shove for exactly the reason we see in this hand.

Flop comes AJh8h. We have QQ, which suddenly goes from being a very strong value hand to an absolute bluffcatcher. Villain checks, we check behind because in order to bluffcatch, villain needs to find a way to bluff.

Villain bets pot on the turn, which looks a lot like a draw to me! I'd move all in here, we trapped him good.

WRT his range: if he's stupid enough to call a pretty sizable reraise OOP with this effective stacksize, he's stupid enough to have a hand like t9o here.

This pot bet on turn confuse.
Maybe you are right, but would you say, why do you think this pot bet looks like a draw, it can be helpful.
Thank you.

Originally posted by PaPi92
This pot bet on turn confuse.
Maybe you are right, but would you say, why do you think this pot bet looks like a draw, it can be helpful.
Thank you.

I feel it doesn't make much sense to pot an ace. You want to get a call. But it doesn't make much sense to enter tournaments when you are as bad as villain is either, so what do I know.

As played pre there r 2option on that flop
Make smalish c bet to look scared and call of shove
Or
As chenyy says ch and call down

But imo chenny is missing one big moment/factor here in the hand
This is kno bounty mtt so when we shove villains (fish + regs) will call wider cos of the bounty and cos our stack is only 1/4 of villains stack

I don't think fish think about that enough IMO. Some definitely do (and they usually will over-compensate as a result!), but I'm not sure about the average fish.

It's fine to 3bet anyway as I think the fish that care about the KO bounty will also be the fish that don't fold much postflop anyway.

Postflop: I feel fish c/r bluff less often than they just bluff vs a check. So I'd take the checkback line as a default preference, especially when there aren't many more scarecards for our hand.