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[Closed] NL5: 44, set in unraised pot

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098799
Joined: 23.07.2007

Hi there,

I owe you guys a few words of explaination. I haven't really played bss before (in fact I did, but forget about it) so I'll be asking questions that may be annoying, obvious and so on. If you'd feel insulted, tell me.

I will also probably posting way too many threads. Sorry.

Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)      
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/pfr/af/wts/ats/foldbb/w$sd;MP3$9.85:82/46/4/0.1/38/13/0/57;Hero$4.88:///////;BB$2.50:16/6/6/1.0/0/0/0/0;UTG+2$1.96:12/33/8/0.3/25/0/0/0;[/tg]
0.02/0.04 No-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is SB with 4♠, 4♣
2 folds, UTG+2 calls $0.04, 2 folds, MP3 calls $0.04, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.02, BB checks.

Flop: ($0.16) T♦, 2♣, 4♥ (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+2 checks, MP3 checks.

Turn: ($0.16) K♦ (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+2 checks, MP3 checks.

River: ($0.16) 5♠ (4 players)
Hero bets $0.16, 3 folds.

Final Pot: $0.32

Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/pfr/af/wts/ats/foldbb/w$sd;MP3$9.85:82/46/4/0.1/38/13/0/57;Hero$4.88:///////;BB$2.50:16/6/6/1.0/0/0/0/0;UTG+2$1.96:12/33/8/0.3/25/0/0/0;

Any opinions about my line?


11 replies
darkonebg
Joined: 17.01.2008

bet flop,bet turn,bet river


098799
Joined: 23.07.2007

OOP? Are you sure?


darkonebg
Joined: 17.01.2008

You have a very strong hand and you wont to get value out of it, so bet it. You want to get as much as possible into the pot, and its not gonna work by checking. On the turn a second diamond comes, so you should bet also for protection.Here its not important that you are out of position, you should assume you are holding the nuts.


098799
Joined: 23.07.2007

I assume holding the nuts AND I assume nobody has a hand so I'd like at least one tiny bluff bet from anybody.


darkonebg
Joined: 17.01.2008

Nah, dont get tricky. You may be holding the "nuts" on the flop, but this wouldnt be the case if the river came or a six, some1 3bets your raise, what are you doing with your set? Just bet when you are strong, its almost always the right play. Its unraised pot and you cant really put villains on ranges, so if some normally not scary cards come, you may get sucked out.
Besides, check/raising wont give you more value than bet/calling a 3bet here. If they fold, its ok ,but you should make them pay to see other cards.


098799
Joined: 23.07.2007

Yeah, I know... thanks for reminding me the most important things in poker like protection :) see you evaluating some more hands of mine.


darkonebg
Joined: 17.01.2008

I have nothing else to do, besides the judges are sleeping as always .Also I know you're a judge on SSS and i assume you are learning to play real poker now . My advice is - you shall vary your looseness depending on villains, but be aggressive, always.


098799
Joined: 23.07.2007

Yeah, that's what I'm trying to do. Probably exeggarating with loosening up, but my concern was rather how not to be to rocky after all these 150k hands of sss.

Already suffered one set over set (and one trips over 'i got the flush by the river') and it's bloody funny ;).

Thanks for help.


darkonebg
Joined: 17.01.2008

Well 10 to 20 VPIP and a PFR as close as you can to your VPIP are good stats for a TAG, anything below 10 is too nitty to be profitable at limits after NL25.
Bad beats are surely gonna come, and this time they hurt more( i lost quads over quads for 200BB once). But normally a set over set is so rare, that you dont have to even consider it as a possibility when you have one, just try not to get sucked out by straights and flushes.


098799
Joined: 23.07.2007

Right, and I wouldn't even be bothering if it wasn't AAA over TTT from some totay unreasonable 80vpip guy ;). One in a milion shot.


Best thing is just bet out that flop. No need to give free cards+ you want to build big pot with second nuts.